1 00:00:47,715 --> 00:00:49,466 Like, I already 2 00:00:47,715 --> 00:00:49,466 know. Like... 3 00:00:54,722 --> 00:00:57,808 I got in. 4 00:00:54,722 --> 00:00:57,808 I got in, I got in! 5 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:01,562 Oh, my God! 6 00:00:59,768 --> 00:01:01,562 I got in! 7 00:01:02,813 --> 00:01:04,231 Ahhh! Ha-ha! 8 00:01:08,694 --> 00:01:09,862 Okay. 9 00:01:18,537 --> 00:01:19,830 What? Denied? 10 00:01:19,872 --> 00:01:21,081 I got in! 11 00:01:35,054 --> 00:01:37,222 Yes! Yes! 12 00:01:38,139 --> 00:01:42,394 Booyah! Booyah! Booyah! 13 00:01:42,436 --> 00:01:43,478 Yes! 14 00:01:45,064 --> 00:01:47,482 "Application Status, 15 00:01:45,064 --> 00:01:47,482 decision made." 16 00:01:49,526 --> 00:01:51,486 I'm sorry, Janelle. 17 00:01:49,526 --> 00:01:51,486 Admitted! 18 00:02:09,713 --> 00:02:11,506 Oh, my God! 19 00:02:11,548 --> 00:02:12,925 Yes, yes, yes! 20 00:03:17,238 --> 00:03:20,534 New students, 21 00:03:17,238 --> 00:03:20,534 as I look out on you today, 22 00:03:20,575 --> 00:03:25,580 I recognize that 23 00:03:20,575 --> 00:03:25,580 you must be feeling 24 00:03:20,575 --> 00:03:25,580 incredible excitement, 25 00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:29,376 anticipation, and perhaps 26 00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:29,376 a little relief, as well. 27 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,046 This is the day. 28 00:03:34,798 --> 00:03:36,216 As your parents 29 00:03:34,798 --> 00:03:36,216 learned when they 30 00:03:36,257 --> 00:03:38,259 dropped you off today, 31 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:41,055 what happens in 32 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:41,055 college stays in college. 33 00:03:41,847 --> 00:03:43,223 Most of the time. 34 00:03:50,271 --> 00:03:53,108 Few things are more 35 00:03:50,271 --> 00:03:53,108 worthy of celebration 36 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:56,570 than the entry of 37 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:56,570 a new class of students 38 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:56,570 into the university. 39 00:03:56,611 --> 00:03:59,823 You have strengths 40 00:03:56,611 --> 00:03:59,823 and skills and smarts 41 00:03:59,865 --> 00:04:02,784 that you don't 42 00:03:59,865 --> 00:04:02,784 yet even realize. 43 00:04:02,826 --> 00:04:04,703 Our Kansas 44 00:04:02,826 --> 00:04:04,703 State University 45 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:07,664 new undergraduate 46 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:07,664 students today 47 00:04:07,706 --> 00:04:11,376 are indeed the next 48 00:04:07,706 --> 00:04:11,376 generation of leaders 49 00:04:11,418 --> 00:04:14,213 on whom we 50 00:04:11,418 --> 00:04:14,213 will all rely. 51 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:16,423 Let us, the faculty, 52 00:04:16,464 --> 00:04:19,760 know what we can do 53 00:04:16,464 --> 00:04:19,760 to help you reach that goal. 54 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:22,096 We will be there 55 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:22,096 to advise you, 56 00:04:22,137 --> 00:04:23,847 to support you, 57 00:04:22,137 --> 00:04:23,847 to guide you, 58 00:04:23,889 --> 00:04:25,473 to point you to 59 00:04:23,889 --> 00:04:25,473 vast resources 60 00:04:25,515 --> 00:04:28,185 and opportunities 61 00:04:25,515 --> 00:04:28,185 on your way. 62 00:04:28,227 --> 00:04:31,479 To our new 63 00:04:28,227 --> 00:04:31,479 treasured students, 64 00:04:31,521 --> 00:04:32,898 this is your moment. 65 00:04:48,247 --> 00:04:50,540 Ah, you see? Ah! 66 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:52,960 Does it get 67 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:52,960 any higher? 68 00:04:53,585 --> 00:04:54,711 No. No. 69 00:04:54,753 --> 00:04:56,671 Aha! 70 00:04:56,713 --> 00:04:58,882 Growing up in 71 00:04:56,713 --> 00:04:58,882 inner-city Miami, 72 00:04:58,924 --> 00:05:01,885 people like me don't 73 00:04:58,924 --> 00:05:01,885 really go anywhere. 74 00:05:01,927 --> 00:05:03,929 My dad came over from Cuba, 75 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:07,057 and then my mom is 76 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:07,057 second generation 77 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:07,057 Cuban-American. 78 00:05:07,099 --> 00:05:10,269 I really wanted 79 00:05:07,099 --> 00:05:10,269 to get out of Miami 80 00:05:07,099 --> 00:05:10,269 and do something different. 81 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:11,812 I'm the first 82 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:11,812 person in my family 83 00:05:11,853 --> 00:05:14,314 to ever leave the state 84 00:05:11,853 --> 00:05:14,314 and go to college. 85 00:05:16,483 --> 00:05:19,027 I was actually valedictorian 86 00:05:16,483 --> 00:05:19,027 in high school. 87 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:20,988 One of my favorite 88 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:20,988 trips was coming to DC 89 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:20,988 when I was eight, 90 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:22,739 and I cried 91 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:22,739 when I saw 92 00:05:22,781 --> 00:05:24,324 the Declaration 93 00:05:22,781 --> 00:05:24,324 of Independence. 94 00:05:26,367 --> 00:05:29,663 I've always been 95 00:05:26,367 --> 00:05:29,663 really fascinated 96 00:05:26,367 --> 00:05:29,663 with the law and politics 97 00:05:29,704 --> 00:05:31,748 and just, like, 98 00:05:29,704 --> 00:05:31,748 our country's history. 99 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,001 And I knew I 100 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,001 wanted to go to a school 101 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:34,001 that had that history. 102 00:05:34,042 --> 00:05:36,377 And, you know, UNC was 103 00:05:34,042 --> 00:05:36,377 the first public school, 104 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:38,379 and they had so much in its 105 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:38,379 history, you know, 106 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:39,840 of activism and 107 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:39,840 social justice, 108 00:05:39,881 --> 00:05:40,882 and I just knew 109 00:05:39,881 --> 00:05:40,882 I belonged. 110 00:05:44,219 --> 00:05:46,263 I grew up in Raleigh, 111 00:05:44,219 --> 00:05:46,263 North Carolina, 112 00:05:46,305 --> 00:05:47,514 kind of in suburbia. 113 00:05:47,555 --> 00:05:49,390 High school I actually had 114 00:05:47,555 --> 00:05:49,390 a great time in. 115 00:05:49,432 --> 00:05:52,686 I was athletic. 116 00:05:49,432 --> 00:05:52,686 I played a lot of sports. 117 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:54,771 I was the first female 118 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:54,771 in my class to letter. 119 00:05:54,813 --> 00:05:58,025 I lettered in cross country. 120 00:05:54,813 --> 00:05:58,025 And then I played soccer. 121 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:00,068 I was basically 122 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:00,068 a straight-A student, 123 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,403 graduated third 124 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,403 in my class. 125 00:06:02,445 --> 00:06:04,239 For college, I thought 126 00:06:02,445 --> 00:06:04,239 I would go somewhere in-state, 127 00:06:04,281 --> 00:06:07,326 and, um, UNC 128 00:06:04,281 --> 00:06:07,326 was the best school. 129 00:06:08,409 --> 00:06:11,454 I really had 130 00:06:08,409 --> 00:06:11,454 a good time there. 131 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:15,209 I learned a lot. 132 00:06:11,496 --> 00:06:15,209 I loved my professors. 133 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:18,837 The first few weeks, 134 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:18,837 I made some of 135 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:18,837 my best friends, 136 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,340 and we're still really, 137 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,340 really close 138 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,340 to this day. 139 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:25,384 But two of us were 140 00:06:23,466 --> 00:06:25,384 sexually assaulted 141 00:06:25,426 --> 00:06:27,386 before classes 142 00:06:25,426 --> 00:06:27,386 had even started. 143 00:06:30,224 --> 00:06:31,975 It was at night, um... 144 00:06:32,017 --> 00:06:34,978 We were dancing. 145 00:06:32,017 --> 00:06:34,978 I was out with some friends. 146 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:39,191 People were drinking, 147 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:39,191 but nobody was 148 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:39,191 ridiculously drunk. 149 00:06:39,233 --> 00:06:41,693 And I got pulled 150 00:06:39,233 --> 00:06:41,693 outside and, um, 151 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:42,986 banged my head 152 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:42,986 against a wall, 153 00:06:43,028 --> 00:06:44,738 and was raped. 154 00:06:48,449 --> 00:06:51,286 I physically fought 155 00:06:48,449 --> 00:06:51,286 and got away and ran, 156 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:54,873 and then went to 157 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:54,873 the bathroom and, 158 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:54,873 like, I still remember 159 00:06:54,915 --> 00:06:56,750 just putting my 160 00:06:54,915 --> 00:06:56,750 hands on the sink 161 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:58,501 and just looking at 162 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:58,501 myself in the mirror, 163 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:00,128 shaking, like, 164 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:00,128 "What just happened?" 165 00:07:04,883 --> 00:07:06,885 My sophomore year, 166 00:07:04,883 --> 00:07:06,885 right after spring break, 167 00:07:06,927 --> 00:07:08,303 a really good 168 00:07:06,927 --> 00:07:08,303 friend of mine said, 169 00:07:08,345 --> 00:07:10,805 "You want to go 170 00:07:08,345 --> 00:07:10,805 to this party?" 171 00:07:10,847 --> 00:07:14,434 and it was pretty 172 00:07:10,847 --> 00:07:14,434 late in the night. 173 00:07:14,475 --> 00:07:16,061 I started dancing 174 00:07:14,475 --> 00:07:16,061 with this guy. 175 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:17,312 He was 176 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:17,312 really attractive 177 00:07:17,354 --> 00:07:19,064 and a really, really 178 00:07:17,354 --> 00:07:19,064 great dancer 179 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:20,315 and just a really 180 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:20,315 good person. 181 00:07:20,357 --> 00:07:21,441 At least, 182 00:07:20,357 --> 00:07:21,441 I thought he was. 183 00:07:23,484 --> 00:07:25,946 It all happened 184 00:07:23,484 --> 00:07:25,946 really quickly. 185 00:07:25,987 --> 00:07:30,158 I was actually a virgin, 186 00:07:25,987 --> 00:07:30,158 so that adds a bit to it, 187 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,327 but, um, he just 188 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,327 started kind of, like, 189 00:07:32,369 --> 00:07:34,454 pulling me 190 00:07:32,369 --> 00:07:34,454 towards the bathroom. 191 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,417 He grabbed my head 192 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,417 by the side of my ear 193 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:40,501 and slammed it 194 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:40,501 against the bathroom tile. 195 00:07:42,254 --> 00:07:44,298 And it didn't stop. 196 00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:49,344 I couldn't move. 197 00:07:49,386 --> 00:07:51,054 I could hear the laughter 198 00:07:49,386 --> 00:07:51,054 outside the door. 199 00:07:51,096 --> 00:07:53,432 I could hear 200 00:07:51,096 --> 00:07:53,432 the people dancing. 201 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:55,976 And it made me wonder, 202 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:55,976 why does nobody see me? 203 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:58,270 Why has nobody 204 00:07:56,017 --> 00:07:58,270 come to the bathroom? 205 00:07:59,146 --> 00:08:01,064 Why am I not screaming? 206 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:06,527 When you're scared, 207 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:06,527 when you don't know 208 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:06,527 what's happening to you, 209 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:10,240 you just stay there 210 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:10,240 and you hope 211 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:10,240 that you don't die. 212 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:12,492 And that's what 213 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:12,492 I was hoping, 214 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:14,494 that I had more 215 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:14,494 than just 20 years to live. 216 00:08:19,207 --> 00:08:21,835 We've known for 217 00:08:19,207 --> 00:08:21,835 probably 25 years now 218 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:24,087 that the problem 219 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:24,087 of sexual assault 220 00:08:24,129 --> 00:08:27,507 on college 221 00:08:24,129 --> 00:08:27,507 campuses is enormous. 222 00:08:27,548 --> 00:08:30,844 On college 223 00:08:27,548 --> 00:08:30,844 campuses, it is not the person 224 00:08:27,548 --> 00:08:30,844 jumping out of the bushes 225 00:08:30,885 --> 00:08:34,473 or in the parking 226 00:08:30,885 --> 00:08:34,473 lot who is going to 227 00:08:30,885 --> 00:08:34,473 rape or sexually assault you. 228 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,475 It is the person 229 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,475 whom you know, 230 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:38,268 the person you may 231 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:38,268 have classes with, 232 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:39,519 the person you 233 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:39,519 see at a party. 234 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:43,273 You think about 235 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:43,273 it's the people 236 00:08:41,188 --> 00:08:43,273 we don't know 237 00:08:43,315 --> 00:08:44,774 that we should 238 00:08:43,315 --> 00:08:44,774 be worried about, 239 00:08:44,816 --> 00:08:46,318 but it's really 240 00:08:44,816 --> 00:08:46,318 the people you do know 241 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,987 that you should 242 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,987 be worried about. 243 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:50,655 But I think 244 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:50,655 a lot of parents think, 245 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:52,573 "Well, we'll drop 246 00:08:50,697 --> 00:08:52,573 our daughter off, 247 00:08:52,615 --> 00:08:55,076 "she'll have a great 248 00:08:52,615 --> 00:08:55,076 college experience, 249 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:58,163 "and everything will 250 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:58,163 be fine because the 251 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:58,163 college has a reputation 252 00:08:58,205 --> 00:08:59,456 "for being a safe place." 253 00:08:59,831 --> 00:09:01,500 Um... 254 00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:02,542 It's not. 255 00:09:16,931 --> 00:09:18,975 I learned later 256 00:09:16,931 --> 00:09:18,975 on that I wasn't the only 257 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:22,020 one who was 258 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:22,020 raped that weekend. 259 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:24,356 But at the time, 260 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:24,356 we didn't talk about it 261 00:09:24,398 --> 00:09:27,942 because it was something 262 00:09:24,398 --> 00:09:27,942 that nobody talked about. 263 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:31,154 Rape's a scary word. 264 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:31,154 You don't want to 265 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:31,154 fall into a category. 266 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:33,781 You don't want to 267 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:33,781 be called the victim. 268 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,576 I did not want to admit 269 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:36,576 that it happened to me. 270 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,666 I didn't tell anybody 271 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,666 for a really long time. 272 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:47,295 I went to classes, um, 273 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:47,295 did everything 274 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:47,295 kind of normally, 275 00:09:47,337 --> 00:09:50,549 and it was just something 276 00:09:47,337 --> 00:09:50,549 in the back of my mind 277 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:52,842 and it really 278 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:52,842 started to affect me. 279 00:09:52,884 --> 00:09:55,678 And I was like, 280 00:09:52,884 --> 00:09:55,678 "I need to do 281 00:09:52,884 --> 00:09:55,678 something about this." 282 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,264 And it actually 283 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,264 wasn't until one of my 284 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:58,932 other friends 285 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:58,932 came to me and said, 286 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:02,018 "I was assaulted 287 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:02,018 at a fraternity. 288 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:02,018 How do I report?" 289 00:10:02,060 --> 00:10:04,896 And I said, 290 00:10:02,060 --> 00:10:04,896 "Actually, I don't know." 291 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,524 And I disclosed to her 292 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,524 that I was assaulted, as well, 293 00:10:07,566 --> 00:10:10,735 and we sat down and 294 00:10:07,566 --> 00:10:10,735 just pulled up Google 295 00:10:10,777 --> 00:10:14,030 and started looking up 296 00:10:10,777 --> 00:10:14,030 how to report at UNC. 297 00:10:14,072 --> 00:10:16,657 I knew I was more comfortable 298 00:10:14,072 --> 00:10:16,657 reporting than she was. 299 00:10:16,699 --> 00:10:18,535 So, I said, 300 00:10:16,699 --> 00:10:18,535 "Okay, I'm gonna go report, 301 00:10:18,577 --> 00:10:20,245 "and then I'll 302 00:10:18,577 --> 00:10:20,245 figure out how to do it, 303 00:10:20,287 --> 00:10:23,123 "and then I'll tell you, 304 00:10:20,287 --> 00:10:23,123 and then you can do it too." 305 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:26,709 So, I told this administrator 306 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:26,709 I was violently raped, 307 00:10:26,751 --> 00:10:28,711 and we're sitting 308 00:10:26,751 --> 00:10:28,711 down at this point, 309 00:10:28,753 --> 00:10:31,005 and she looks at 310 00:10:28,753 --> 00:10:31,005 me and she's like, 311 00:10:31,047 --> 00:10:32,882 "Rape is like 312 00:10:31,047 --> 00:10:32,882 a football game, Annie, 313 00:10:32,924 --> 00:10:34,884 "and if you look 314 00:10:32,924 --> 00:10:34,884 back on the game, 315 00:10:34,926 --> 00:10:38,805 "what would you do differently 316 00:10:34,926 --> 00:10:38,805 in that situation?" 317 00:10:38,846 --> 00:10:42,016 I was expecting resources. 318 00:10:38,846 --> 00:10:42,016 I was expecting support. 319 00:10:42,058 --> 00:10:46,896 And instead she gives me 320 00:10:42,058 --> 00:10:46,896 this metaphor that 321 00:10:42,058 --> 00:10:46,896 rape is football. 322 00:10:46,938 --> 00:10:49,649 And it made no sense. 323 00:10:46,938 --> 00:10:49,649 And I ask her... I was just, 324 00:10:49,690 --> 00:10:51,901 "No, rape is not 325 00:10:49,690 --> 00:10:51,901 like football at all!" 326 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:54,195 And she's like, "Well, 327 00:10:51,943 --> 00:10:54,195 you know, were you drunk?" 328 00:10:54,237 --> 00:10:56,406 And, "What would you 329 00:10:54,237 --> 00:10:56,406 have done differently 330 00:10:56,448 --> 00:10:58,492 "if you could replay 331 00:10:56,448 --> 00:10:58,492 the situation again?" 332 00:10:58,533 --> 00:11:00,577 And I was just getting blamed 333 00:10:58,533 --> 00:11:00,577 and blamed and 334 00:10:58,533 --> 00:11:00,577 blamed for this. 335 00:11:03,413 --> 00:11:06,500 They kept asking me, like, 336 00:11:03,413 --> 00:11:06,500 "What were you wearing? 337 00:11:06,541 --> 00:11:09,586 "What were you drinking? How 338 00:11:06,541 --> 00:11:09,586 much did you have to drink? 339 00:11:06,541 --> 00:11:09,586 Did you pregame?" 340 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:11,004 He kind of just 341 00:11:09,628 --> 00:11:11,004 lectured us about 342 00:11:11,045 --> 00:11:13,798 how we shouldn't go 343 00:11:11,045 --> 00:11:13,798 out in short skirts. 344 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,093 And we shouldn't drink 345 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,093 because, I mean, that's 346 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,093 our fault. 347 00:11:17,135 --> 00:11:18,595 "Did you say no? 348 00:11:18,637 --> 00:11:21,431 "How many times 349 00:11:18,637 --> 00:11:21,431 did you say no? 350 00:11:18,637 --> 00:11:21,431 How did you say it? 351 00:11:21,473 --> 00:11:22,307 "Okay, what were you wearing?" 352 00:11:22,349 --> 00:11:24,017 There was no response. 353 00:11:24,058 --> 00:11:26,311 There was no response 354 00:11:24,058 --> 00:11:26,311 for seven months. 355 00:11:26,353 --> 00:11:28,687 I thought that if I told them, 356 00:11:26,353 --> 00:11:28,687 they would take action. 357 00:11:30,106 --> 00:11:32,275 But the only action 358 00:11:30,106 --> 00:11:32,275 they took was against me. 359 00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:33,568 After I was 360 00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:33,568 sexually assaulted, 361 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:35,028 they said I 362 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:35,028 should just drop out 363 00:11:35,069 --> 00:11:36,363 until everything blows over. 364 00:11:37,572 --> 00:11:39,073 Out of school. 365 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:42,285 I went back into her office, 366 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:42,285 and I asked her what happened. 367 00:11:42,327 --> 00:11:45,580 She looked me right in the eye 368 00:11:42,327 --> 00:11:45,580 and told me that she forgot. 369 00:11:45,622 --> 00:11:47,915 The school's response 370 00:11:45,622 --> 00:11:47,915 always seemed like 371 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:50,126 they were more concerned 372 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:50,126 about him and his needs. 373 00:11:50,168 --> 00:11:51,710 She said, uh, 374 00:11:51,752 --> 00:11:54,214 "You don't know what 375 00:11:51,752 --> 00:11:54,214 he's going through right now 376 00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:56,715 "He could be really 377 00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:56,715 having a hard time." 378 00:11:56,757 --> 00:11:58,426 They also told me, 379 00:11:56,757 --> 00:11:58,426 despite the fact that I had 380 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,514 a written admission 381 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,514 of guilt from him, 382 00:12:02,556 --> 00:12:04,849 that I didn't have enough 383 00:12:02,556 --> 00:12:04,849 evidence and that, in fact, 384 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:07,394 what I'd presented to them 385 00:12:07,435 --> 00:12:08,811 could only prove 386 00:12:07,435 --> 00:12:08,811 that he loved me. 387 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:14,817 There's a lot of 388 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:14,817 victim-blaming 389 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:14,817 with this crime, 390 00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:16,735 which has a silencing 391 00:12:14,859 --> 00:12:16,735 effect on survivors. 392 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:28,373 If a student comes 393 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:28,373 to an administrator 394 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:28,373 with a problem, 395 00:12:28,415 --> 00:12:29,624 it's not as if 396 00:12:28,415 --> 00:12:29,624 the administrator 397 00:12:29,666 --> 00:12:31,710 wants that 398 00:12:29,666 --> 00:12:31,710 student to be harmed. 399 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:33,836 It's not as if 400 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:33,836 the administrator 401 00:12:33,878 --> 00:12:36,297 wants the harm 402 00:12:33,878 --> 00:12:36,297 to be perpetuated, 403 00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:39,175 but their first job is to 404 00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:39,175 protect the institution 405 00:12:36,339 --> 00:12:39,175 from harm, 406 00:12:39,217 --> 00:12:40,552 not the student from harm. 407 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:43,137 What you do is you 408 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:43,137 make it difficult 409 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:43,137 for students to report, 410 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:45,848 so you don't have 200 411 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:45,848 or a thousand 412 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:45,848 reported assaults, 413 00:12:45,890 --> 00:12:47,975 or whatever the number 414 00:12:45,890 --> 00:12:47,975 would be on that campus. 415 00:12:48,017 --> 00:12:50,562 So, you can artificially keep 416 00:12:48,017 --> 00:12:50,562 your numbers low. 417 00:12:52,063 --> 00:12:55,149 One really easy way, 418 00:12:52,063 --> 00:12:55,149 when a lot of students report, 419 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:57,985 they very much discourage them 420 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:57,985 from going to the police. 421 00:12:58,027 --> 00:13:00,113 And that's because 422 00:12:58,027 --> 00:13:00,113 if it goes to the police, 423 00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:02,115 then it's more likely to 424 00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:02,115 end up as a public record. 425 00:13:03,866 --> 00:13:05,660 CLAIRE BOND POTTER: 426 00:13:03,866 --> 00:13:05,660 Colleges have been 427 00:13:05,702 --> 00:13:07,412 mandated for a long 428 00:13:05,702 --> 00:13:07,412 time to report the crimes 429 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:10,331 that occur on campus 430 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:10,331 to the federal government. 431 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:14,001 But it is in 432 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:14,001 the interest of the college 433 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:14,001 to actually suppress 434 00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:16,713 all knowledge that 435 00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:16,713 that rape has happened. 436 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:31,519 There is a desire to have this 437 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:31,519 addressed internally. 438 00:13:31,561 --> 00:13:34,773 And part of that is silencing 439 00:13:31,561 --> 00:13:34,773 the kind of problem. 440 00:13:34,855 --> 00:13:37,191 It's viewed as 441 00:13:34,855 --> 00:13:37,191 a public relations 442 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:39,860 management kind of a problem, 443 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:39,860 I would say. 444 00:13:39,902 --> 00:13:42,363 Universities are 445 00:13:39,902 --> 00:13:42,363 protecting a brand. 446 00:13:42,405 --> 00:13:44,198 They're selling a product. 447 00:14:10,642 --> 00:14:12,101 I got a call from 448 00:14:12,143 --> 00:14:15,021 the Dean of Admissions first, 449 00:14:12,143 --> 00:14:15,021 asking, you know... 450 00:14:15,062 --> 00:14:17,357 "If you were to 451 00:14:15,062 --> 00:14:17,357 get into Harvard, 452 00:14:15,062 --> 00:14:17,357 would you accept?" 453 00:14:17,398 --> 00:14:18,857 And I said yes 454 00:14:17,398 --> 00:14:18,857 because I knew my mom 455 00:14:18,899 --> 00:14:20,485 would kill me if I 456 00:14:18,899 --> 00:14:20,485 said anything else. 457 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:21,695 But... 458 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:26,949 I had mentioned 459 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:26,949 a little pressure. 460 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:26,949 Just a little. 461 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:29,160 You know, I saw it as 462 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:29,160 a great opportunity. 463 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:31,746 You know, 464 00:14:29,202 --> 00:14:31,746 a Harvard law degree. Wow. 465 00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:36,793 I saw the inside 466 00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:36,793 of a court room 467 00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:37,918 during my second 468 00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:37,918 year of law school. 469 00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:45,134 It was insanely stressful, 470 00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:45,134 but also super rewarding. 471 00:14:45,176 --> 00:14:47,887 So, yeah, I really loved 472 00:14:45,176 --> 00:14:47,887 my second year there. 473 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:53,893 It was during the winter term 474 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:53,893 of my third year. 475 00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:56,270 I knew him really well. 476 00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:59,899 We'd met a couple 477 00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:59,899 of years earlier. 478 00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:02,819 The guy, and my 479 00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:02,819 girlfriend who was over, 480 00:15:02,861 --> 00:15:06,030 we all met at my apartment 481 00:15:02,861 --> 00:15:06,030 to have some 482 00:15:02,861 --> 00:15:06,030 drinks beforehand, 483 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,616 and then we went 484 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,616 out to this bar. 485 00:15:08,658 --> 00:15:11,786 He continued to buy 486 00:15:08,658 --> 00:15:11,786 us both more drinks. 487 00:15:12,953 --> 00:15:14,706 Half an hour 488 00:15:12,953 --> 00:15:14,706 into it, I noticed 489 00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:16,957 my girlfriend seemed wasted. 490 00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:22,797 People started to comment on 491 00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:22,797 how drunk my friend seemed. 492 00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:28,344 Almost instantly 493 00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:28,344 after we got into the taxi, 494 00:15:28,386 --> 00:15:31,598 I just felt this extremely 495 00:15:28,386 --> 00:15:31,598 heavy feeling come over me. 496 00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:39,230 My friend, she was just 497 00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:39,230 kind of passed out completely. 498 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:42,275 It was, 499 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:42,275 like, a maybe 10-minute 500 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:42,275 ride back to my place. 501 00:15:44,026 --> 00:15:46,987 Me and my girlfriend 502 00:15:44,026 --> 00:15:46,987 kind of just flopped down, 503 00:15:47,029 --> 00:15:48,656 face first on my bed. 504 00:15:50,324 --> 00:15:55,830 The next thing I remember, 505 00:15:50,324 --> 00:15:55,830 he, um, was on top of me 506 00:15:55,872 --> 00:16:00,084 and he had a hand 507 00:15:55,872 --> 00:16:00,084 inside of my underwear 508 00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:02,336 and he was trying to put 509 00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:02,336 a finger inside of me. 510 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:06,173 I yanked him by the hair, 511 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:06,173 and I looked 512 00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,885 over and I just 513 00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,885 saw her naked back, 514 00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:13,514 and I know that 515 00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:13,514 she'd fallen asleep 516 00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:13,514 with all of her clothes on. 517 00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:16,559 And so, my next question was, 518 00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:16,559 "Why is she naked?" 519 00:16:16,601 --> 00:16:17,936 Um... 520 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,438 And he smiled as he was 521 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,438 still on top of me, 522 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,941 fondling me with one hand, 523 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,941 and he reached out 524 00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:24,859 and pet her 525 00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:24,859 naked belly and said, 526 00:16:24,901 --> 00:16:27,278 "I did that. I undressed her." 527 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,363 And I asked, you know, 528 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,363 "You took off her bra?" 529 00:16:29,405 --> 00:16:32,283 Then, he... 530 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:36,537 He touched her naked breast, 531 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:36,537 while she was still 532 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:36,537 totally unconscious, 533 00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:37,914 and said, 534 00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:37,914 "Yeah, I did that, too." 535 00:16:39,791 --> 00:16:41,793 And the next day he texted me. 536 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:45,004 And I said something 537 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:45,004 very casually, like, 538 00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:48,174 "Am I gonna have to tell her 539 00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:48,174 that she needs 540 00:16:45,045 --> 00:16:48,174 a pregnancy test?" 541 00:16:48,215 --> 00:16:50,593 And he said in 542 00:16:48,215 --> 00:16:50,593 the text message, 543 00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:52,553 "No, we didn't do 544 00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:52,553 anything serious. 545 00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:55,890 "Maybe I put 546 00:16:52,595 --> 00:16:55,890 a finger in her v at most." 547 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:03,564 It seemed pretty 548 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:03,564 clear that he had 549 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:03,564 assaulted both of them 550 00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:05,733 while they were unconscious. 551 00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:10,530 I absolutely 552 00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:10,530 presumed that Harvard 553 00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:10,530 would do right by Kamilah. 554 00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:16,285 I went to the Dean 555 00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:16,285 of Students' office, 556 00:17:13,115 --> 00:17:16,285 and she said, 557 00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:19,205 "I just want to make sure, 558 00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:19,205 above all else, 559 00:17:19,246 --> 00:17:22,542 "that you don't talk 560 00:17:19,246 --> 00:17:22,542 to anyone about this. 561 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,753 "It could be bad for everyone 562 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,753 if people 563 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,753 started rallying around 564 00:17:25,795 --> 00:17:27,129 "having him 565 00:17:25,795 --> 00:17:27,129 removed from campus." 566 00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:31,634 I was like... 567 00:17:27,171 --> 00:17:31,634 "Well, he's a predator, 568 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:33,970 "and he's dangerous, 569 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:33,970 and actually that's 570 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:33,970 exactly what I want." 571 00:17:36,639 --> 00:17:39,684 We both had the right 572 00:17:36,639 --> 00:17:39,684 to legal representation. 573 00:17:39,726 --> 00:17:41,394 My lawyer was pro bono. 574 00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:46,315 She was a phenomenal client. 575 00:17:46,357 --> 00:17:49,986 She really told her story 576 00:17:46,357 --> 00:17:49,986 with a great 577 00:17:46,357 --> 00:17:49,986 deal of confidence. 578 00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:52,321 I went into the hearing 579 00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:53,823 and even 580 00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:53,823 the professors were like, 581 00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:56,283 "Did I give him 582 00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:56,283 the wrong message 583 00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:56,283 with our friendship 584 00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:58,077 "and that he misunderstood 585 00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:58,077 our friendship." 586 00:17:59,286 --> 00:18:02,623 My response was like, 587 00:17:59,286 --> 00:18:02,623 "No, because, you know, 588 00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:06,252 "sex was never part 589 00:18:02,665 --> 00:18:06,252 of that friendship. 590 00:18:06,293 --> 00:18:09,547 "And if it were ever going 591 00:18:06,293 --> 00:18:09,547 to be introduced, 592 00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:11,591 "when I was awake 593 00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:11,591 would be a good 594 00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:11,591 time for that." 595 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:17,055 I'm getting questions like, 596 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:17,055 "Why didn't you fight him?" 597 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:21,100 And he's like, 598 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:21,100 I think like 6'3", 599 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:21,100 over 200 pounds. 600 00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:26,022 I was unconscious 601 00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:26,022 or just coming to. 602 00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:28,816 I, like, could barely 603 00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:28,816 take control of my own body. 604 00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:29,817 But, 605 00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:29,817 "Why didn't you fight him?" 606 00:18:31,527 --> 00:18:34,697 There was this extreme 607 00:18:31,527 --> 00:18:34,697 reluctance to believe me. 608 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:38,534 Campus 609 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:38,534 administrators are overly 610 00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,079 concerned about 611 00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,079 false reporting. 612 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,456 You look at 613 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,456 statistics on false reporting. 614 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:46,375 It's much, much smaller than 615 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:46,375 what people estimate it to be. 616 00:18:46,417 --> 00:18:47,961 The data about 617 00:18:46,417 --> 00:18:47,961 false rape claims 618 00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:51,213 is that they're 619 00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:51,213 a tiny minority 620 00:18:48,002 --> 00:18:51,213 of all reports ever made. 621 00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,800 Rape and sexual assault 622 00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,800 have the same 623 00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,676 percentage of false reports 624 00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:58,178 that any other crime 625 00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:58,178 has in our country. 626 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:01,390 The best research 627 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:01,390 from around the world 628 00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:04,811 would put the percentage 629 00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:04,811 of false reports 630 00:19:01,432 --> 00:19:04,811 somewhere between two and 8%. 631 00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:10,608 Which means 90% 632 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:14,695 but more likely 95 633 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:14,695 to 98% of reports, 634 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:14,695 are not false. 635 00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:21,119 We got done with the hearing 636 00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:21,119 probably at 4:30 or 5:00. 637 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,287 And they came 638 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,287 back very quickly. 639 00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:26,165 They'd found that 640 00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:26,165 he had assaulted me. 641 00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:29,919 When we got the call 642 00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:29,919 that he was expelled, 643 00:19:29,961 --> 00:19:31,796 she was in utter disbelief. 644 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,173 And that doesn't 645 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,173 come very often 646 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,173 with these college cases. 647 00:19:36,717 --> 00:19:40,179 The next September, 648 00:19:36,717 --> 00:19:40,179 I came back to Cambridge, 649 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:42,640 and I got a Facebook message 650 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:42,640 from the Dean of Students. 651 00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:50,272 She said that the assailant, 652 00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:50,272 he could appeal 653 00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:50,272 the ad board's decision, 654 00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:53,609 and they voted again 655 00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:53,609 on whether to uphold 656 00:19:53,651 --> 00:19:55,069 the decision to remove him 657 00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,821 and decided to 658 00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,821 let him back in. 659 00:20:12,837 --> 00:20:14,755 The message is clear. 660 00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,508 It's, "Don't proceed through 661 00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,508 these disciplinary hearings. 662 00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:21,220 "No matter what you do, 663 00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:21,220 you're not gonna win." 664 00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,452 I was like, 665 00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,452 "Well, you know what? 666 00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,452 I'm okay. 667 00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:28,079 "And I've never had 668 00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:28,079 anything happen to me, 669 00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:28,079 and I'm fine. 670 00:21:28,121 --> 00:21:30,289 "I'm gonna get through this." 671 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,458 But I started 672 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:32,458 feeling different. 673 00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,934 Not only was my mind 674 00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,934 in a place of turmoil, 675 00:21:49,976 --> 00:21:52,561 my body was, as well. 676 00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:54,563 I had nightmares 677 00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:54,563 that were so vivid 678 00:21:52,603 --> 00:21:54,563 that I would wake up 679 00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:57,399 and my neck was 680 00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:57,399 bleeding of how much 681 00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:57,399 I was scratching off 682 00:21:57,441 --> 00:21:58,985 that invisible 683 00:21:57,441 --> 00:21:58,985 rapist on my neck again. 684 00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:10,454 So, finally, when it became 685 00:22:08,244 --> 00:22:10,454 very overwhelming, 686 00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,332 I knew that I couldn't 687 00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,332 keep denying it anymore. 688 00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,378 So, actually, 689 00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,378 the first person I told 690 00:22:15,793 --> 00:22:18,378 was Annie Clark. 691 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,506 She was a senior 692 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,506 when I was a first year. 693 00:22:20,547 --> 00:22:23,926 I kind of facebooked her 694 00:22:20,547 --> 00:22:23,926 and I said, you know, 695 00:22:23,968 --> 00:22:25,343 "Can I talk to you 696 00:22:23,968 --> 00:22:25,343 about something?" 697 00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:31,391 Hey, it's Annie. 698 00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:31,391 Yeah, how are you doing? 699 00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:32,893 I mean, we just hit it off. 700 00:22:32,935 --> 00:22:34,895 Oh, my gosh. 701 00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,106 She, 702 00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,106 till this day, has been my 703 00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,106 greatest support system. 704 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:39,357 Are you in a place... 705 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:39,357 Do you feel comfortable 706 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:39,357 talking about it, or... 707 00:22:40,484 --> 00:22:41,694 After I spoke to Annie, 708 00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:44,030 I came out publicly 709 00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:44,030 to the entire campus 710 00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:46,364 in October of 711 00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:46,364 my sophomore year 712 00:22:46,406 --> 00:22:47,992 with a project called 713 00:22:46,406 --> 00:22:47,992 the Courage Project, 714 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,536 which was a photo project 715 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,536 of survivors on campus. 716 00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:57,126 As I became more public, 717 00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:57,126 I became kind of 718 00:22:52,496 --> 00:22:57,126 that gateway for people 719 00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:59,712 to actually 720 00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:59,712 start talking about 721 00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:59,712 what had happened to them. 722 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,864 Within four weeks, 723 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,864 I met nine rape 724 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,864 survivors at UNC. 725 00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:30,617 My school needed to know 726 00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:30,617 this was a problem, 727 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,036 and I thought 728 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,036 that they honestly 729 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:32,036 just didn't know. 730 00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,749 I made meetings with 731 00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,749 the Vice-Chancellor, 732 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,209 and I made meetings 733 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,209 with the Dean of Students, 734 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:40,961 and they were passed off 735 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:40,961 and ignored and delayed. 736 00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:44,798 And I kept saying, 737 00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:44,798 "UNC has a problem 738 00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:44,798 with sexual assault." 739 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,885 I had the same meeting with 740 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,885 the Chancellor four years ago, 741 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,304 and it's like as 742 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,304 soon as there's 743 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,304 a new cycle of students, 744 00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:51,764 there's no 745 00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:51,764 institutional memory, 746 00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:53,140 and the problem 747 00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:53,140 starts all over again. 748 00:23:53,182 --> 00:23:54,850 And so, unless you have... 749 00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:57,644 To see it happen 750 00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:57,644 with my friends 751 00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:57,644 going through the same thing 752 00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,232 I experienced six years ago, 753 00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,232 it's heartbreaking. 754 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:05,694 And it's... 755 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:05,694 That has affected me 756 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:05,694 more than my own rape. 757 00:24:05,736 --> 00:24:08,572 People stop talking about it, 758 00:24:05,736 --> 00:24:08,572 and then it just continues 759 00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:12,243 and then it makes you wonder, 760 00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:12,243 what is it gonna take? 761 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:14,494 And we started working 762 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:14,494 with Dean Melinda Manning, 763 00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:18,165 who was somebody 764 00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:18,165 who a lot of survivors 765 00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:18,165 have worked with and trusted. 766 00:24:18,207 --> 00:24:20,000 So, in your time at UNC, 767 00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,128 how many students came to you 768 00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,128 and said they'd 769 00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,128 been assaulted? 770 00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:23,170 Um... 771 00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:27,591 Yeah, it's hard to put 772 00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:27,591 a number on it, so... 773 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:29,467 At least a hundred. 774 00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:32,346 And of the hundred, 775 00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:35,224 how many of the perpetrators 776 00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:35,224 were removed from campus? 777 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:38,185 From what I remember, 778 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:38,185 no one was 779 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:38,185 expelled during that time. 780 00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:40,271 So, these guys could 781 00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:40,271 just get away with it? 782 00:24:40,313 --> 00:24:42,273 Absolutely. Absolutely. 783 00:24:42,315 --> 00:24:45,318 And people could 784 00:24:42,315 --> 00:24:45,318 commit it repeatedly. 785 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,362 I was certainly 786 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,362 aware of some individuals 787 00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:50,656 who had committed it 788 00:24:48,404 --> 00:24:50,656 repeatedly. 789 00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:57,204 A survivor at Occidental 790 00:24:53,117 --> 00:24:57,204 College contacted me. 791 00:24:57,246 --> 00:25:01,459 I noticed that her 792 00:24:57,246 --> 00:25:01,459 rapist's name matched 793 00:24:57,246 --> 00:25:01,459 the name of two other cases. 794 00:25:01,499 --> 00:25:04,211 So, she was the third student 795 00:25:01,499 --> 00:25:04,211 to be raped by this student. 796 00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:09,425 Um, and the most 797 00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:09,425 troubling aspect of this case 798 00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:14,888 is that he was allowed back, 799 00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:14,888 or is allowed to 800 00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:14,888 come back onto campus. 801 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,476 I thought it was only one, 802 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,476 but now I know 803 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,476 there's two other women. 804 00:25:18,516 --> 00:25:22,813 And who knows who else 805 00:25:18,516 --> 00:25:22,813 who just wasn't 806 00:25:18,516 --> 00:25:22,813 able to step forward. 807 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:27,234 It seemed like 808 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:27,234 prime hunting ground 809 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:27,234 for someone like him. 810 00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:30,279 My assailant, he's done 811 00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:30,279 much worse to other people. 812 00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:32,530 He has assaulted 813 00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:32,530 at least four different women. 814 00:25:32,572 --> 00:25:35,451 That's just who I know of. 815 00:25:35,493 --> 00:25:37,703 About two weeks 816 00:25:35,493 --> 00:25:37,703 after I reported, 817 00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:41,581 I got a call from 818 00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:41,581 the detective saying 819 00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:47,629 that they found 820 00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:47,629 two other girls 821 00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:47,629 that he had previously raped. 822 00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:51,800 And they were both 823 00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:51,800 University of Tulsa students, 824 00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:54,552 and they had both 825 00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:54,552 reported to the school. 826 00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:01,227 The vast 827 00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:01,227 majority of men don't rape, 828 00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:04,313 won't rape, haven't raped. 829 00:26:04,355 --> 00:26:06,023 So, when you start 830 00:26:04,355 --> 00:26:06,023 looking at then 831 00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:08,025 the rapists who are 832 00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:08,025 committing these crimes, 833 00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,861 it is the repeat offenders 834 00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,861 who are the core 835 00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,861 of this problem. 836 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,874 I was incarcerated 837 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,874 for six and a half 838 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,874 years for sexual assault. 839 00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:27,420 I know I was at fault. 840 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,925 You know, like I said, I guess 841 00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:34,760 the reason I really 842 00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:34,760 wanted to do this interview 843 00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:38,472 was to maybe help 844 00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:38,472 someone else out. 845 00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:42,142 You know, maybe have 846 00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:42,142 them become aware of, 847 00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,562 you know, 848 00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,562 what they're doing wrong. 849 00:26:44,602 --> 00:26:47,565 The really 850 00:26:44,602 --> 00:26:47,565 practiced sex offenders 851 00:26:44,602 --> 00:26:47,565 identify groups of people 852 00:26:47,647 --> 00:26:49,816 who are more vulnerable. 853 00:26:49,858 --> 00:26:52,819 College is a place where 854 00:26:49,858 --> 00:26:52,819 lots of alcohol's consumed 855 00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:56,031 and, uh, the number 856 00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:56,031 of victims is endless. 857 00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:02,121 These men select 858 00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:02,121 victims ahead of time. 859 00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:05,665 It could be a bar. 860 00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:05,665 It could be a fraternity party 861 00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:05,665 where people are drinking. 862 00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:09,627 At the parties, 863 00:27:07,918 --> 00:27:09,627 like, frat parties, 864 00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:11,547 I mean, 865 00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:11,547 people are getting wasted. 866 00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,632 So, it's not like 867 00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,632 a lot of the time, 868 00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:14,632 depending on who they're with, 869 00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:19,637 nobody, um, keeps 870 00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:19,637 an eye on them. 871 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:21,515 The alcohol is 872 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:21,515 essentially a weapon 873 00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:26,562 that is used to 874 00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:26,562 render somebody 875 00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:26,562 extremely vulnerable. 876 00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:31,817 Alcohol 877 00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:31,817 definitely makes it easier 878 00:27:26,604 --> 00:27:31,817 to overpower a victim. 879 00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:37,573 If they're inebriated 880 00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:37,573 or under the influence, 881 00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:37,573 less struggle, for sure. 882 00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:39,450 And then 883 00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:39,450 there's an isolation phase. 884 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,536 So, you know, somebody who 885 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,536 has deliberately 886 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:42,536 gotten this young woman 887 00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:45,539 extremely intoxicated, 888 00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:45,539 and at some 889 00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:45,539 point he says to her, 890 00:27:45,581 --> 00:27:47,583 "I'll walk you 891 00:27:45,581 --> 00:27:47,583 back to your room." 892 00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,461 Or, "You can sleep 893 00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,461 it off if you want. 894 00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,461 We have a bed upstairs." 895 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:54,381 And that's where 896 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:54,381 the assault occurs. 897 00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:07,727 A lot of people say, 898 00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,062 "Why don't they 899 00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,062 just have students 900 00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,062 go to the police?" 901 00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:12,316 I have a lot of good friends 902 00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:12,316 who are police officers, 903 00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:16,320 and I love them dearly, 904 00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:16,320 but they have some work to do. 905 00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:27,039 Even if law enforcement 906 00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:27,039 does do a good job, 907 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,915 a lot of district attorneys 908 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,915 don't want to 909 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,915 take these cases. 910 00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:38,300 And even if 911 00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:38,300 there is prosecution, 912 00:28:38,342 --> 00:28:39,843 it takes a long time. 913 00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:41,679 It takes a year, two years. 914 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,390 In the meantime, 915 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,390 that alleged perpetrator 916 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,725 could do it again 917 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,725 and again and again. 918 00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:50,770 So, universities, 919 00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:50,770 if they have good evidence 920 00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:53,566 that somebody is perpetrating 921 00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:53,566 that crime on that campus, 922 00:28:53,607 --> 00:28:55,568 they should remove them 923 00:28:53,607 --> 00:28:55,568 to protect their 924 00:28:53,607 --> 00:28:55,568 other students, 925 00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:57,486 with or without the police. 926 00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,658 No more violence! 927 00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,658 No more rape! 928 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,618 No more silence! 929 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,618 No more hate! 930 00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:13,752 What we're seeing 931 00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:13,752 today has been going on 932 00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:16,255 for a very long time 933 00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:16,255 on college campuses. 934 00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:22,302 Sexual violence has always 935 00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:22,302 been part of 936 00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:22,302 the college experience. 937 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,307 Here at Brown University, 938 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:27,307 names of men accused of rape 939 00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:30,519 appeared on bathroom walls 940 00:29:27,349 --> 00:29:30,519 all over the campus. 941 00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:35,190 The administration 942 00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:35,190 called the tactic vigilantism. 943 00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:38,402 One student had a word 944 00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:38,402 for the women who did it. 945 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:41,821 Idiots. 946 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:41,821 I have a lot of 947 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:41,821 friends on the list, 948 00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:43,907 and by no means 949 00:29:41,863 --> 00:29:43,907 are they rapists. 950 00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:46,910 They might be aggressive 951 00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:46,910 at parties, flirtatious. 952 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:49,788 And if girls carry a grudge, 953 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:49,788 they call them rapists. 954 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:52,165 And to be saying that 955 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:52,165 just because a woman says "no" 956 00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:54,793 and because you have sex, 957 00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:57,129 those are the two facts. 958 00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:57,129 The woman said 959 00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:57,129 "no" and you had sex. 960 00:29:57,170 --> 00:30:00,591 Then are you a rapist 961 00:29:57,170 --> 00:30:00,591 automatically because of that? 962 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,259 A national 963 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:02,259 study says one out of 964 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,637 every four female 965 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,637 college students 966 00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:08,348 will be the victim of a rape 967 00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:08,348 or attempted sexual assault. 968 00:30:08,390 --> 00:30:12,018 The first national 969 00:30:08,390 --> 00:30:12,018 study was done... 970 00:30:08,390 --> 00:30:12,018 Published in 1987. 971 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:15,814 Mary Koss' survey of colleges 972 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:15,814 around the country. 973 00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:20,068 And those numbers 974 00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:20,068 have been replicated 975 00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:20,068 over and over again. 976 00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:22,321 Good evening. 977 00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:22,321 As troubling as 978 00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:22,321 your statistics, Garick, 979 00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:24,823 are charges that this date 980 00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:24,823 or acquaintance rape 981 00:30:24,864 --> 00:30:27,534 is being hidden 982 00:30:24,864 --> 00:30:27,534 by universities and colleges 983 00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:30,287 in order to 984 00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:30,287 protect their image 985 00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:30,287 among prospective students 986 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:31,163 and their families. 987 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,800 We had been trying to change 988 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,800 the university for years, 989 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,551 and nothing was 990 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:44,551 getting any better. 991 00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:48,221 And so, we started 992 00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:48,221 looking to do something 993 00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:52,058 to force them or shame them 994 00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:52,058 into doing the right thing. 995 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,228 We started digging 996 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,228 and doing months 997 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:55,228 and months of research. 998 00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:58,023 On sexual harassment 999 00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:58,023 law, on rape statutes. 1000 00:30:58,064 --> 00:31:01,109 And then I read 1001 00:30:58,064 --> 00:31:01,109 about Title IX. 1002 00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:04,446 Title IX is 1003 00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:04,446 a gender equity law. 1004 00:31:04,488 --> 00:31:08,033 And it guarantees 1005 00:31:04,488 --> 00:31:08,033 anyone the right 1006 00:31:04,488 --> 00:31:08,033 to an equal education. 1007 00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,787 When perpetrators 1008 00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,787 are allowed to remain 1009 00:31:11,829 --> 00:31:13,997 on campus and 1010 00:31:11,829 --> 00:31:13,997 schools don't expel them, 1011 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,124 even when they're 1012 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,124 found responsible, 1013 00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:18,084 then they're in 1014 00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:18,084 violation of Title IX 1015 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:21,380 for contributing to 1016 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:21,380 a hostile environment. 1017 00:31:21,421 --> 00:31:24,216 If a school is found in 1018 00:31:21,421 --> 00:31:24,216 violation of Title IX, 1019 00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:27,177 the government has the power 1020 00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:27,177 to revoke all federal funds, 1021 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,138 which would hopefully 1022 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,138 force a school to 1023 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:30,138 be in compliance. 1024 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,599 Title IX and 1025 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,599 the pending Campus Save Act 1026 00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:34,476 and now this law? Like, what? 1027 00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:38,188 And so, we decided to 1028 00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:38,188 file a Title IX Complaint. 1029 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,982 You basically write 1030 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,982 to the Department of Education 1031 00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:44,194 and you not only explain 1032 00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:44,194 what happened to you, 1033 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:48,281 but you also explain 1034 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:48,281 how it's 1035 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:48,281 a violation of Title IX. 1036 00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:51,201 So, it is Thursday night, 1037 00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:51,201 and instead of going out, 1038 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:54,413 we are in, learning case law 1039 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:54,413 until we know Title IX 1040 00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:57,499 and the case law 1041 00:31:54,454 --> 00:31:57,499 like the back of our hands. 1042 00:31:57,541 --> 00:31:59,752 I had earbuds in. 1043 00:31:57,541 --> 00:31:59,752 If I was walking, 1044 00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:01,336 if I was, you know, 1045 00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:01,336 going on a run or whatever, 1046 00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,547 instead of music 1047 00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,547 there were 1048 00:32:01,378 --> 00:32:03,547 supreme court cases. 1049 00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:05,591 I read all the case law 1050 00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:07,967 on all existing 1051 00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:07,967 Title IX cases. 1052 00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:09,720 Like, 1053 00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:09,720 we're sleeping in shifts. 1054 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,346 I would write for three hours 1055 00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:15,100 and then sleep 1056 00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:15,100 for three hours, 1057 00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:15,100 and she would do the same. 1058 00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,686 And I learned that you 1059 00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,686 don't have to be 1060 00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,686 a lawyer to file it, 1061 00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:21,857 that you could 1062 00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:21,857 be 20 and take on 1063 00:32:17,728 --> 00:32:21,857 a 200-year-old university. 1064 00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:24,276 We didn't know how to file. 1065 00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:27,863 So, we faxed it, we emailed 1066 00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:27,863 it, and we mailed it. 1067 00:32:28,739 --> 00:32:30,073 We didn't know what to expect, 1068 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,702 and so, I go into 1069 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,702 my university 1070 00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:33,702 mail office one day, 1071 00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:37,080 and I have this big 1072 00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:37,080 envelope from 1073 00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:37,080 the Department of Education, 1074 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:40,292 and I'm just, 1075 00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:40,292 like, freaking out. 1076 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,545 I'm, like, 1077 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,545 crying, I'm calling Drea, 1078 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:43,545 Melinda, I'm just like, 1079 00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,964 "They took our case. 1080 00:32:43,587 --> 00:32:45,964 They took our case." 1081 00:32:48,467 --> 00:32:50,135 Flat out denial. 1082 00:32:50,176 --> 00:32:52,512 Leaders at UNC say accusations 1083 00:32:50,176 --> 00:32:52,512 that the university 1084 00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:55,515 underreported sexual 1085 00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:55,515 assault cases is false. 1086 00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,226 UNC Chapel Hill 1087 00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,226 General Council, 1088 00:32:55,557 --> 00:32:58,226 Leslie Strohm, 1089 00:32:58,268 --> 00:33:01,730 pointed out what a false 1090 00:32:58,268 --> 00:33:01,730 claim can do to 1091 00:32:58,268 --> 00:33:01,730 a university's reputation. 1092 00:33:01,772 --> 00:33:05,108 The allegations are false. 1093 00:33:01,772 --> 00:33:05,108 They are untrue. 1094 00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:07,402 And they are just plain wrong. 1095 00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:15,160 "False. Untrue. 1096 00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:15,160 And just plain wrong." 1097 00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:18,789 That resonates in my head. 1098 00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:18,789 I hear that when I sleep. 1099 00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:20,248 To say, 1100 00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:20,248 "None of this happened. 1101 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,542 "We're not underreporting. 1102 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:22,542 We didn't mess up." 1103 00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:23,752 It's just betrayal. 1104 00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:29,090 Schools are 1105 00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:29,090 actively and aggressively 1106 00:33:29,132 --> 00:33:30,717 not wanting to 1107 00:33:29,132 --> 00:33:30,717 tell the truth about 1108 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,218 what's going on 1109 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,218 in their campuses 1110 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:35,096 because the first campuses 1111 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:35,096 to do so will be, 1112 00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:36,807 you know, kind of known as 1113 00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:36,807 the rape campuses, 1114 00:33:36,849 --> 00:33:38,517 where they actually 1115 00:33:36,849 --> 00:33:38,517 have a rape problem. 1116 00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:41,770 But, you know, rape 1117 00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:41,770 is happening on all 1118 00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:41,770 college campuses, 1119 00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:44,564 and there are 1120 00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:44,564 perverse economic 1121 00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:44,564 and reputational incentives 1122 00:33:44,606 --> 00:33:46,107 to hide those numbers. 1123 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:49,903 I analogize it to 1124 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:49,903 getting a letter. 1125 00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:54,073 So, you're a parent 1126 00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:54,073 and you get a letter 1127 00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:54,073 in the middle of the summer, 1128 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:56,994 and it says, "Dear Mr. 1129 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:56,994 and Mrs. Schultz, 1130 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,788 "we're so happy that Johnny 1131 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,788 is going to be a freshman, 1132 00:33:59,830 --> 00:34:02,624 "and we thought we might 1133 00:33:59,830 --> 00:34:02,624 need to let you know 1134 00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:06,378 "that there's 1135 00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:06,378 a one-in-four or five chance 1136 00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:06,378 that while Johnny's here, 1137 00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:09,464 "he's going to be the victim 1138 00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:09,464 of a drive-by shooting." 1139 00:34:09,506 --> 00:34:11,466 What's so vexing 1140 00:34:09,506 --> 00:34:11,466 about this problem 1141 00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:14,970 is that the shooters 1142 00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:14,970 are other students. 1143 00:34:15,012 --> 00:34:16,513 "Thank you so much 1144 00:34:15,012 --> 00:34:16,513 for your tuition money. 1145 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,432 "We so look 1146 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,432 forward to welcoming 1147 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:19,432 Johnny in the fall." 1148 00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:24,437 Would any parent send 1149 00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:24,437 his or her child there? 1150 00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:26,648 They protect perpetrators, 1151 00:34:24,479 --> 00:34:26,648 I think, across the board 1152 00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,317 because they have 1153 00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,317 a financial 1154 00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:29,317 incentive to do so. 1155 00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:31,236 Perpetrators who are found 1156 00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:31,236 responsible for rape 1157 00:34:31,277 --> 00:34:33,947 are much more likely 1158 00:34:31,277 --> 00:34:33,947 to sue institutions 1159 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:38,076 than survivors are, 1160 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:38,076 and institutions 1161 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:38,076 like to avoid lawsuits. 1162 00:34:38,117 --> 00:34:40,746 And so, in an effort 1163 00:34:38,117 --> 00:34:40,746 to avoid lawsuits, 1164 00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,664 they pretty much 1165 00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,664 do whatever they can 1166 00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:44,249 to give them 1167 00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:44,249 a slap on the wrist. 1168 00:35:28,334 --> 00:35:30,087 Any allegation of 1169 00:35:28,334 --> 00:35:30,087 sexual assault is something 1170 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,130 that we at the university 1171 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:32,130 take very seriously. 1172 00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:33,548 ASU issued a statement 1173 00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,592 saying in part, 1174 00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,592 "Arizona State University 1175 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,303 "takes all sexual misconduct 1176 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,303 complaints very seriously." 1177 00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:39,554 The University 1178 00:35:38,344 --> 00:35:39,554 says it's taking 1179 00:35:39,596 --> 00:35:42,181 these allegations 1180 00:35:39,596 --> 00:35:42,181 very seriously. 1181 00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:44,726 We take all 1182 00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:44,726 incidents very seriously. 1183 00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:46,645 "We take these accusations 1184 00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:46,645 very seriously." 1185 00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,897 "We take reports 1186 00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,897 like this very seriously." 1187 00:35:48,939 --> 00:35:51,900 They take all 1188 00:35:48,939 --> 00:35:51,900 reports very seriously. 1189 00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:54,653 "James Madison 1190 00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:54,653 University takes 1191 00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:54,653 the safety and well being 1192 00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:56,947 "of our students 1193 00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:56,947 very seriously." 1194 00:35:56,989 --> 00:35:59,616 So, what's the punishment? 1195 00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:02,327 All three 1196 00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:02,327 students responsible 1197 00:36:02,368 --> 00:36:04,913 for sexual 1198 00:36:02,368 --> 00:36:04,913 assault and harassment, 1199 00:36:04,955 --> 00:36:07,582 expelled upon graduation. 1200 00:36:07,624 --> 00:36:09,250 Yes! Justice! 1201 00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:11,044 Unbe... Wait a minute. 1202 00:36:12,504 --> 00:36:15,173 Expelled upon graduation? 1203 00:36:18,384 --> 00:36:21,346 Isn't that graduation? 1204 00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:33,191 We will strive to 1205 00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:33,191 build a community 1206 00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:37,195 where education, inquiry, 1207 00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:37,195 and faith combine 1208 00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:40,073 to respond to 1209 00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:40,073 the demands of justice. 1210 00:36:42,117 --> 00:36:44,536 This is our goal, 1211 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:47,539 that no one ever say 1212 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:47,539 that we dreamed too small. 1213 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,463 My career in law 1214 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,463 enforcement started in 1969 1215 00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,424 from the South 1216 00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,424 Bend Police Department 1217 00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,424 and then went to 1218 00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:00,802 the University of 1219 00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:00,802 Notre Dame Police Department. 1220 00:37:00,844 --> 00:37:02,846 University students are... 1221 00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:05,640 They're just wonderful kids. 1222 00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:10,311 But there's... 1223 00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:10,311 Just like anywhere, 1224 00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:10,311 there's a percentage 1225 00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:17,318 of, um, absolutely horrible 1226 00:37:10,353 --> 00:37:17,318 people too, you know. 1227 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,238 And, of course, 1228 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,238 I had to deal with that, too. 1229 00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:28,080 Saint Mary's is the 1230 00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:28,080 sister school to Notre Dame. 1231 00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:31,875 It's one of the best 1232 00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:31,875 catholic all-women's 1233 00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:31,875 colleges in the nation, 1234 00:37:31,917 --> 00:37:33,210 and I was proud to go there. 1235 00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:39,632 I was really 1236 00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:39,632 happy I was part of 1237 00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:39,632 campus ministries. 1238 00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:43,720 I decided to be 1239 00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:43,720 a biology major. 1240 00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:47,849 I had a dream of 1241 00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:47,849 going to medical school. 1242 00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:50,351 Compared to my sister, 1243 00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:50,351 I'm more of a book person, 1244 00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:52,938 and she kind of 1245 00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:52,938 always made fun of me 1246 00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:55,232 'cause I liked to 1247 00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:55,232 stay in on the weekends, 1248 00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:58,276 and she'd kind of say 1249 00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:58,276 I was a party pooper 1250 00:37:58,317 --> 00:38:00,153 and want me to 1251 00:37:58,317 --> 00:38:00,153 come out and stuff. 1252 00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:02,280 And I did go out. 1253 00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:02,280 And it was fun. 1254 00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:06,118 It was Halloween. 1255 00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:11,330 A call came in on my phone. 1256 00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,709 It was from someone I knew 1257 00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:14,709 who went to Notre Dame. 1258 00:38:14,751 --> 00:38:19,297 He's like, "You have to come 1259 00:38:14,751 --> 00:38:19,297 to a Halloween party." 1260 00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:22,717 You know, I trust people. 1261 00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:22,717 I trusted what he said. 1262 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,222 So, you know, 1263 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,222 I just went along with it. 1264 00:38:28,932 --> 00:38:31,559 We got to his dorm. 1265 00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:34,771 You know, I asked him, "Well, 1266 00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:34,771 where is everyone else?" 1267 00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:38,108 And he's like, 1268 00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:38,108 "Oh, they're coming." 1269 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,321 And eventually 1270 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,321 his friends left, 1271 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,321 and it was just me and him. 1272 00:38:50,036 --> 00:38:51,454 And 1273 00:38:50,036 --> 00:38:51,454 that's when it happened. 1274 00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:57,127 She, of course, said, "No." 1275 00:38:57,169 --> 00:39:00,421 You know, trying to keep him 1276 00:38:57,169 --> 00:39:00,421 from doing what he was doing. 1277 00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:04,676 And then he eventually 1278 00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:04,676 just forced her 1279 00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:04,676 and raped her. 1280 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,724 Lieutenant 1281 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,724 Cottrell interviewed 1282 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,724 all the people that, 1283 00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,186 you know, I had 1284 00:39:11,766 --> 00:39:14,186 known that were involved. 1285 00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:16,980 In my opinion, 1286 00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:16,980 I had a conspiracy 1287 00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:22,777 of not only 1288 00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:22,777 the suspect that was involved 1289 00:39:17,022 --> 00:39:22,777 in raping the victim, 1290 00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:28,491 but I also had friends of his 1291 00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:28,491 that helped convince her 1292 00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:30,368 that there was a party 1293 00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:30,368 that she was going to. 1294 00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:36,582 The University had 1295 00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:36,582 their judicial hearing. 1296 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:43,089 I had this idealistic view 1297 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:43,089 that if I was 1298 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:43,089 telling the truth 1299 00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:44,632 that they would support me. 1300 00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:46,009 And, um... 1301 00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:48,386 They didn't. 1302 00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:54,559 They preferred to 1303 00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:54,559 have the crime stats 1304 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,689 as low as possible 1305 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,689 so that, you know, 1306 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:05,278 it doesn't 1307 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:05,278 detract from applicants 1308 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:05,278 to the University. 1309 00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:11,492 I met with the 1310 00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:11,492 president of Saint Mary's, 1311 00:40:07,364 --> 00:40:11,492 Dr. Mooney. 1312 00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:17,415 Hello, I'm Carol Ann Mooney, 1313 00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:17,415 President of 1314 00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:17,415 Saint Mary's college. 1315 00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,755 Saint Mary's must 1316 00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,755 always be committed 1317 00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,755 to providing our students 1318 00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:28,009 with an excellent intellectual 1319 00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:28,009 and academic experience. 1320 00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:31,429 She kind of blew it off 1321 00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:31,429 and didn't take it seriously, 1322 00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:31,429 you know. 1323 00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:36,309 She said, 1324 00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:36,309 "Well, these things 1325 00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:36,309 don't happen here." 1326 00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:45,360 It got worse and worse for me 1327 00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:45,360 as the years went along. 1328 00:40:45,735 --> 00:40:47,779 Um... 1329 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:52,284 Not only dealing with what 1330 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:52,284 happened to the victim, 1331 00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:57,289 but also dealing with 1332 00:40:52,325 --> 00:40:57,289 what the university did. 1333 00:40:57,330 --> 00:41:01,459 My bosses were 1334 00:40:57,330 --> 00:41:01,459 saying that they 1335 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,172 had empathy for 1336 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,172 victims of crimes, 1337 00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:10,718 but it was like I told them, 1338 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,388 that "Talk is cheap. 1339 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:16,849 "And that's all it is 1340 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:16,849 with you guys is talk. 1341 00:41:16,891 --> 00:41:19,644 "You don't really 1342 00:41:16,891 --> 00:41:19,644 support victims of crimes. 1343 00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:22,814 "I do. 1344 00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:24,399 "And I can't work 1345 00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:24,399 for you any longer." 1346 00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:30,989 I didn't 1347 00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:30,989 really talk about it. 1348 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:32,365 I kind of just... 1349 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:38,371 ...stayed in my room 1350 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:38,371 for a couple months 1351 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:38,371 until Christmas. 1352 00:41:39,789 --> 00:41:42,208 And I didn't sleep. 1353 00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:44,543 My nights and 1354 00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:44,543 days were mixed up. 1355 00:41:45,420 --> 00:41:47,005 I had to, um... 1356 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:50,508 Couldn't go to class, 1357 00:41:48,214 --> 00:41:50,508 and so I cut down. 1358 00:41:52,177 --> 00:41:54,846 I just completely 1359 00:41:52,177 --> 00:41:54,846 changed as a person. 1360 00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,394 I think 1361 00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,394 the biggest reason 1362 00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:01,394 why it's so hard 1363 00:42:01,436 --> 00:42:02,687 to be on a college campus 1364 00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:05,731 after you've been raped 1365 00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:05,731 or sexually assaulted 1366 00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:07,859 is that it's 1367 00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:07,859 a small place, right, 1368 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,402 where everything 1369 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,402 is structured. 1370 00:42:09,444 --> 00:42:10,611 Your living 1371 00:42:09,444 --> 00:42:10,611 space is structured, 1372 00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:12,530 your eating 1373 00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:12,530 space is structured, 1374 00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:13,990 so, you're gonna 1375 00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:13,990 run into your rapist. 1376 00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:18,619 I couldn't go out. 1377 00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:18,619 Like, I couldn't 1378 00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:18,619 mingle with strangers. 1379 00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,164 I felt the campus getting 1380 00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,164 smaller and smaller to me. 1381 00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,124 There were less 1382 00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,124 and less places 1383 00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:23,124 I felt comfortable going. 1384 00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:26,169 I walk around with 1385 00:42:23,166 --> 00:42:26,169 my pepper spray on my keys, 1386 00:42:26,211 --> 00:42:28,754 and I'm always just on edge. 1387 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:34,219 There's a whole 1388 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:34,219 physiological side to PTSD. 1389 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,595 When you experience 1390 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,595 a traumatic event like this, 1391 00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:39,765 your nervous system, 1392 00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:42,935 tends to get very reactive. 1393 00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:45,188 I started having 1394 00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:45,188 more panic attacks. 1395 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,066 When I was in my 1396 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,066 depressed state, 1397 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,066 I just slept all day long. 1398 00:42:48,107 --> 00:42:49,650 I couldn't stop crying. 1399 00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,777 I couldn't stop 1400 00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,777 thinking about it. 1401 00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,777 I self-harmed. 1402 00:42:53,321 --> 00:42:56,491 During the vacation between 1403 00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:59,494 I guess, semester 1404 00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:59,494 one and semester two, 1405 00:42:56,533 --> 00:42:59,494 I tried to kill myself. 1406 00:43:01,371 --> 00:43:05,583 I had a lot of, 1407 00:43:01,371 --> 00:43:05,583 I mean, of course depression, 1408 00:43:01,371 --> 00:43:05,583 suicidal thoughts. 1409 00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:09,462 Trey Malone took 1410 00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:09,462 his own life last June. 1411 00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,631 In his suicide note, 1412 00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,631 Malone wrote 1413 00:43:09,504 --> 00:43:12,631 about being sexually abused 1414 00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:15,301 while a student 1415 00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:15,301 at Amherst College, 1416 00:43:15,343 --> 00:43:17,929 and the school's 1417 00:43:15,343 --> 00:43:17,929 lack of response. 1418 00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:20,265 Men are sexually assaulted. 1419 00:43:20,306 --> 00:43:23,642 And typically that is 1420 00:43:20,306 --> 00:43:23,642 perpetrated by other men. 1421 00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:27,230 And I think for 1422 00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:27,230 a lot of male survivors 1423 00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:27,230 who are sexually assaulted, 1424 00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:30,775 it challenges many beliefs 1425 00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:30,775 that they have 1426 00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:30,775 about themselves. 1427 00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:32,735 Men aren't supposed 1428 00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:32,735 to become vulnerable. 1429 00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,488 They always say, 1430 00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,488 "You allowed yourself 1431 00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:35,488 to do it. Why did you do it? 1432 00:43:35,530 --> 00:43:37,198 "Why didn't you 1433 00:43:35,530 --> 00:43:37,198 fight them off?" 1434 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,117 Men have to be strong, 1435 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,117 and men wouldn't let 1436 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,117 this happen to them. 1437 00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:43,538 Because of 1438 00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:43,538 the emphasis there is 1439 00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:47,542 on it being 1440 00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:47,542 a crime against females, 1441 00:43:47,584 --> 00:43:50,711 men feel less comfortable 1442 00:43:47,584 --> 00:43:50,711 coming forward with it. 1443 00:43:50,753 --> 00:43:55,007 Reporting rates amongst men 1444 00:43:50,753 --> 00:43:55,007 are just so infinitesimal 1445 00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:57,885 that it actually 1446 00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:57,885 makes it very hard 1447 00:43:55,049 --> 00:43:57,885 to do research on this, 1448 00:43:57,927 --> 00:44:03,641 let alone to get 1449 00:43:57,927 --> 00:44:03,641 a real understanding 1450 00:43:57,927 --> 00:44:03,641 of the scope of the problem. 1451 00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:24,745 You are built from the ground 1452 00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:24,745 as a Tar Heel, 1453 00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:28,207 as a member of a community 1454 00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:28,207 that is so much 1455 00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:28,207 bigger than you. 1456 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,461 I was directly 1457 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,461 going against it. 1458 00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,590 Tonight the US 1459 00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,590 Department of Education 1460 00:44:35,632 --> 00:44:37,300 has launched its 1461 00:44:35,632 --> 00:44:37,300 own investigation 1462 00:44:37,342 --> 00:44:39,636 into how UNC 1463 00:44:37,342 --> 00:44:39,636 Chapel Hill has been 1464 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:44,015 handling sexual 1465 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:44,015 assault cases on campus. 1466 00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,726 It wasn't until 1467 00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,726 we filed the complaint 1468 00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,726 that the retaliation started. 1469 00:44:47,768 --> 00:44:48,853 And it's been bad. 1470 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,109 I've gotten death threats, 1471 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,109 I've gotten rape threats. 1472 00:44:55,151 --> 00:44:57,278 Of course, Internet trolls 1473 00:44:55,151 --> 00:44:57,278 are always there. 1474 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,033 But I had one 1475 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,033 in-person threat, 1476 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,033 which was kind of scary. Um... 1477 00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:04,494 "Bang-bang, bitch. Die." 1478 00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,663 My residence 1479 00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,663 hall was broken into, 1480 00:45:06,703 --> 00:45:08,705 and it was 1481 00:45:06,703 --> 00:45:08,705 completely vandalized. 1482 00:45:08,747 --> 00:45:11,917 Spray paint everywhere, 1483 00:45:08,747 --> 00:45:11,917 a knife was left behind. 1484 00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:13,710 And messages were 1485 00:45:11,959 --> 00:45:13,710 painted all over. 1486 00:45:18,007 --> 00:45:21,302 I felt like I was in 1487 00:45:18,007 --> 00:45:21,302 danger all the time, 1488 00:45:21,344 --> 00:45:25,264 and that's what I thought of 1489 00:45:21,344 --> 00:45:25,264 when I went to classes. 1490 00:45:25,306 --> 00:45:27,559 I went, you know, from being 1491 00:45:25,306 --> 00:45:27,559 valedictorian in high school 1492 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,687 and then, you know, 1493 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,687 struggling to 1494 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,687 finish my classes. 1495 00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:33,398 And not knowing how 1496 00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:33,398 to tell my parents, 1497 00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:33,398 which I never did. 1498 00:45:37,734 --> 00:45:39,612 Can you talk a little bit 1499 00:45:37,734 --> 00:45:39,612 about what it was like 1500 00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:41,738 when your parents found out? 1501 00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:42,823 They still don't know. 1502 00:45:42,865 --> 00:45:43,908 They still don't know. 1503 00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:45,159 Yeah. 1504 00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,785 Um... 1505 00:45:48,162 --> 00:45:51,916 I thought about telling them 1506 00:45:48,162 --> 00:45:51,916 many, many times. 1507 00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,753 And I didn't tell my parents 1508 00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,753 until a couple days later, 1509 00:45:56,795 --> 00:45:58,423 which was probably, 1510 00:45:56,795 --> 00:45:58,423 like, the hardest 1511 00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,342 thing I've ever 1512 00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:01,342 had to do, ever. 1513 00:46:03,802 --> 00:46:05,096 Now I'm gonna start crying. 1514 00:46:05,137 --> 00:46:06,514 It's okay, you can cry. 1515 00:46:06,556 --> 00:46:08,516 You don't have to hold it in. 1516 00:46:08,558 --> 00:46:10,142 Like, 1517 00:46:08,558 --> 00:46:10,142 I remember skyping my dad... 1518 00:46:13,605 --> 00:46:16,232 What worries 1519 00:46:13,605 --> 00:46:16,232 you about telling them? 1520 00:46:16,274 --> 00:46:19,110 The conversation afterwards. 1521 00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:22,530 I worry that they'd 1522 00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:22,530 look at me differently. 1523 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,619 I'm worried that they'd 1524 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,619 want to talk about it again. 1525 00:46:31,788 --> 00:46:34,041 And just the fact 1526 00:46:31,788 --> 00:46:34,041 that they would know. 1527 00:46:37,044 --> 00:46:38,421 That it would just be 1528 00:46:37,044 --> 00:46:38,421 there in their minds 1529 00:46:38,463 --> 00:46:41,090 when they looked at me. 1530 00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,050 Just to hear my 1531 00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,050 mom's voice on the phone, 1532 00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:45,136 her feeling so 1533 00:46:43,092 --> 00:46:45,136 helpless in that moment, 1534 00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:48,514 is probably one of 1535 00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:48,514 the worst aspects 1536 00:46:45,177 --> 00:46:48,514 of this entire ordeal, 1537 00:46:48,556 --> 00:46:51,016 which probably makes me 1538 00:46:48,556 --> 00:46:51,016 the most angry 1539 00:46:48,556 --> 00:46:51,016 at my assailant. 1540 00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:54,771 My mom 1541 00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:54,771 was on the plane 1542 00:46:51,058 --> 00:46:54,771 the next day after I told her. 1543 00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:06,491 My dad, he wears 1544 00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:06,491 his Notre Dame ring every day. 1545 00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,993 I've never seen 1546 00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,993 him take it off, 1547 00:47:06,532 --> 00:47:08,993 and he didn't... 1548 00:47:09,034 --> 00:47:11,287 He wasn't wearing it anymore. 1549 00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,541 His finger that 1550 00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,541 has a permanent mark 1551 00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:15,541 from his ring 1552 00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:17,251 and didn't have his ring on. 1553 00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:19,170 And it just... 1554 00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:23,341 It was even more heartbreaking 1555 00:47:19,211 --> 00:47:23,341 for me to watch my dad. 1556 00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:26,843 I call her from 1557 00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:26,843 a thousand miles away 1558 00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:26,843 and tell her this. 1559 00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:31,390 And I just wanted 1560 00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:31,390 her to be there. 1561 00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:45,196 Lizzy always had this 1562 00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:45,196 big, beautiful, radiant smile. 1563 00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:49,033 It was electric, and it made 1564 00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:49,033 other people happy. 1565 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,163 We had 11 family 1566 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,163 members attend Notre Dame 1567 00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:57,709 and two family members, 1568 00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:57,709 including Lizzy, 1569 00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:57,709 that went to Saint Mary's. 1570 00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:00,795 And she, I think, 1571 00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:00,795 really felt affirmed 1572 00:48:00,837 --> 00:48:04,131 that this was 1573 00:48:00,837 --> 00:48:04,131 the right choice. 1574 00:48:04,173 --> 00:48:07,259 She was really, 1575 00:48:04,173 --> 00:48:07,259 really happy to be there. 1576 00:48:08,511 --> 00:48:10,095 ♪ And a little bit 1577 00:48:08,511 --> 00:48:10,095 of chicken fried ♪ 1578 00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:15,393 She went over on 1579 00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:15,393 August 31st with a friend 1580 00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:17,894 to attend an activities fair 1581 00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:17,894 at Notre Dame, 1582 00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:21,148 and that 1583 00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:21,148 evening they went back 1584 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:25,444 to this 1585 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:25,444 football player's room. 1586 00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:31,450 It was four of them in there. 1587 00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,910 The football 1588 00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,910 player and his friend 1589 00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:33,910 and Lizzy and her friend. 1590 00:48:33,952 --> 00:48:36,205 And then... 1591 00:48:36,247 --> 00:48:38,374 I guess, rather suddenly, 1592 00:48:38,416 --> 00:48:42,169 the... The, uh... 1593 00:48:38,416 --> 00:48:42,169 The other two left the room 1594 00:48:42,211 --> 00:48:44,714 and left Lizzy alone 1595 00:48:42,211 --> 00:48:44,714 with this football player. 1596 00:48:44,756 --> 00:48:48,092 And then he 1597 00:48:44,756 --> 00:48:48,092 basically jumps her. 1598 00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:51,345 He pulls her on top of him 1599 00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:56,267 and removes her shirt, 1600 00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:56,267 and bra, 1601 00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:59,437 and then also begins 1602 00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:59,437 to try to take off her pants. 1603 00:49:02,022 --> 00:49:05,317 And the next 1604 00:49:02,022 --> 00:49:05,317 day Lizzy reports. 1605 00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,152 It never crossed our mind 1606 00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:07,152 that they wouldn't do right. 1607 00:49:09,946 --> 00:49:11,824 The accused, 1608 00:49:09,946 --> 00:49:11,824 they couldn't find him. 1609 00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:13,576 They had 1610 00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:13,576 difficulty locating him. 1611 00:49:14,827 --> 00:49:16,995 Everyone knows where 1612 00:49:14,827 --> 00:49:16,995 this individual is. 1613 00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:19,791 Certainly 1614 00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:19,791 the athletic department knows. 1615 00:49:19,832 --> 00:49:23,210 He played two 1616 00:49:19,832 --> 00:49:23,210 home football games 1617 00:49:19,832 --> 00:49:23,210 before he was interviewed. 1618 00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:27,381 Notre Dame Stadium 1619 00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:27,381 holds 80,000 people, 1620 00:49:27,423 --> 00:49:31,803 so, that's times two, 1621 00:49:27,423 --> 00:49:31,803 160,000 people 1622 00:49:27,423 --> 00:49:31,803 knew where this guy was 1623 00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:36,098 before the Notre 1624 00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:36,098 Dame Security Police 1625 00:49:31,844 --> 00:49:36,098 could find him. 1626 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:40,478 There was a directive 1627 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:40,478 that the campus police 1628 00:49:41,729 --> 00:49:44,690 cannot contact an athlete 1629 00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:47,109 at any athletic facility, 1630 00:49:49,027 --> 00:49:53,157 and we cannot contact 1631 00:49:49,027 --> 00:49:53,157 any athletic employee 1632 00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:59,455 to assist us in 1633 00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:59,455 contacting the athlete 1634 00:49:53,198 --> 00:49:59,455 that we would be looking for. 1635 00:49:59,497 --> 00:50:01,081 So, what was 1636 00:49:59,497 --> 00:50:01,081 the point of that? 1637 00:50:03,835 --> 00:50:07,755 I guess just to... 1638 00:50:07,797 --> 00:50:10,549 ...keep us away 1639 00:50:07,797 --> 00:50:10,549 from student athletes. 1640 00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,595 So, Lizzy ends this exchange 1641 00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,595 of intimidating texts 1642 00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:16,931 from the football 1643 00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:16,931 player's friend, 1644 00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:19,057 and he comes at 1645 00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:19,057 her with a text, 1646 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,859 And then Lizzy 1647 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,859 takes that message 1648 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:32,070 and immediately forwards it 1649 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:32,070 to the detective in charge. 1650 00:50:32,112 --> 00:50:34,114 And later 1651 00:50:32,112 --> 00:50:34,114 the county prosecutor said 1652 00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:35,992 that they would not 1653 00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:35,992 be filing any charges 1654 00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:40,371 on that particular complaint 1655 00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:40,371 and saying that 1656 00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:40,371 it wasn't a threat 1657 00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:43,791 because 1658 00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:43,791 the individual who sent it 1659 00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:48,212 believed he was 1660 00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:48,212 trying to prevent someone 1661 00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:48,212 from filing a false report. 1662 00:50:53,049 --> 00:50:55,761 She was becoming very anxious 1663 00:50:53,049 --> 00:50:55,761 about this whole situation. 1664 00:50:57,889 --> 00:51:00,808 One of her friends 1665 00:50:57,889 --> 00:51:00,808 is quoted as saying 1666 00:50:57,889 --> 00:51:00,808 that she said, you know, 1667 00:51:00,850 --> 00:51:03,059 "He's gonna get away with it." 1668 00:51:03,101 --> 00:51:05,270 He denied everything, 1669 00:51:05,312 --> 00:51:07,982 and made comments like, 1670 00:51:05,312 --> 00:51:07,982 "She was the aggressor." 1671 00:51:09,901 --> 00:51:13,487 Friday evening, 1672 00:51:09,901 --> 00:51:13,487 I finally looked at my phone, 1673 00:51:13,529 --> 00:51:17,157 and I saw a text from 1674 00:51:13,529 --> 00:51:17,157 my wife's best friend saying, 1675 00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:20,745 "You need to call right away." 1676 00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:25,791 And I remember 1677 00:51:20,786 --> 00:51:25,791 the words in it was, 1678 00:51:25,833 --> 00:51:27,960 "It's bad. It's bad. 1679 00:51:29,837 --> 00:51:31,213 "Lizzy took her life today. 1680 00:51:35,593 --> 00:51:36,802 "She's gone." 1681 00:51:49,774 --> 00:51:51,943 You know, it's brutal. 1682 00:51:51,984 --> 00:51:55,571 It's just 1683 00:51:51,984 --> 00:51:55,571 really profoundly sad 1684 00:51:51,984 --> 00:51:55,571 in those moments 1685 00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:59,033 when you just think, 1686 00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:59,033 she's not here with us. 1687 00:52:07,291 --> 00:52:08,751 Is it just students? 1688 00:52:07,291 --> 00:52:08,751 Is it everybody? 1689 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:15,758 Um, students 1690 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:15,758 and university, 1691 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:15,758 community members. 1692 00:52:16,884 --> 00:52:18,510 So, I'm in Oregon. 1693 00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:21,680 Drea ends up moving to Oregon 1694 00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:21,680 and taking the semester off. 1695 00:52:25,643 --> 00:52:29,897 "Every place I've separated 1696 00:52:25,643 --> 00:52:29,897 with a semicolon 1697 00:52:25,643 --> 00:52:29,897 is a different..." 1698 00:52:29,939 --> 00:52:31,398 She and I started talking. 1699 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,942 We're like, okay, 1700 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,942 "We're gonna keep doing this. 1701 00:52:32,984 --> 00:52:35,360 "Don't know how 1702 00:52:32,984 --> 00:52:35,360 we're gonna fund it, 1703 00:52:32,984 --> 00:52:35,360 but we're gonna do something." 1704 00:52:36,278 --> 00:52:37,613 We called everybody. 1705 00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:40,407 Most people 1706 00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:40,407 totally laughed it off. 1707 00:52:40,449 --> 00:52:44,202 Just looking at rape reporting 1708 00:52:40,449 --> 00:52:44,202 in general, it's really low... 1709 00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:46,038 But one of 1710 00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:46,038 the people who we had 1711 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,665 reached out to 1712 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,665 about the UNC case 1713 00:52:47,706 --> 00:52:48,833 was at the New York Times. 1714 00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:51,043 And he's like, 1715 00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:51,043 "Oh, that's interesting." 1716 00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:52,753 It ended up 1717 00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:52,753 becoming a front page 1718 00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:52,753 New York Times story. 1719 00:52:55,756 --> 00:53:00,803 That's when we got a flood of 1720 00:52:55,756 --> 00:53:00,803 emails, Facebook, tweets. 1721 00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:04,431 Like, somebody tweeted at me, 1722 00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:04,431 "Me, too. 1723 00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:04,431 It happened to me, too." 1724 00:53:04,473 --> 00:53:07,183 This is Annie. 1725 00:53:04,473 --> 00:53:07,183 And Andrea's here with me. 1726 00:53:07,225 --> 00:53:09,185 Do you see 1727 00:53:07,225 --> 00:53:09,185 a button in the middle 1728 00:53:09,227 --> 00:53:10,896 of your screen? 1729 00:53:09,227 --> 00:53:10,896 It says "start video." 1730 00:53:12,023 --> 00:53:13,732 Yay! 1731 00:53:12,023 --> 00:53:13,732 Cool. Look at that. 1732 00:53:13,774 --> 00:53:17,028 It was my freshman year. 1733 00:53:13,774 --> 00:53:17,028 I'd been at school 1734 00:53:13,774 --> 00:53:17,028 for a couple of weeks. 1735 00:53:17,069 --> 00:53:18,988 I'd made friends 1736 00:53:17,069 --> 00:53:18,988 in some frat houses. 1737 00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:20,990 People reached out through 1738 00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:20,990 all these different mediums. 1739 00:53:21,032 --> 00:53:23,408 A lot of Facebook. 1740 00:53:21,032 --> 00:53:23,408 A lot of emails. 1741 00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,661 "I froze and 1742 00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,661 couldn't fight back." 1743 00:53:25,703 --> 00:53:27,245 "I don't know if 1744 00:53:25,703 --> 00:53:27,245 it's appropriate to have 1745 00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:28,956 "told this story to 1746 00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:28,956 you without asking, 1747 00:53:28,998 --> 00:53:31,792 "and I'm sorry if it's been 1748 00:53:28,998 --> 00:53:31,792 harmful to you in any way, 1749 00:53:31,834 --> 00:53:34,336 "but it needs to stop." 1750 00:53:36,088 --> 00:53:37,548 Wow. 1751 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,509 I remember I was 1752 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,509 in one meeting 1753 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,509 after some story broke, 1754 00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:44,304 and I had 50 calls in an hour. 1755 00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:44,304 I had 50 calls. 1756 00:53:44,346 --> 00:53:47,099 I've never heard of 1757 00:53:44,346 --> 00:53:47,099 a case that has gone 1758 00:53:47,141 --> 00:53:49,685 in, like, 1759 00:53:47,141 --> 00:53:49,685 the survivor's favor. 1760 00:53:49,727 --> 00:53:50,895 I mean, he admitted it. 1761 00:53:50,936 --> 00:53:51,937 He admitted to sexual assault 1762 00:53:51,979 --> 00:53:53,022 and got 1763 00:53:51,979 --> 00:53:53,022 an eight-week suspension. 1764 00:53:53,064 --> 00:53:54,481 Mmm-hmm. 1765 00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:57,484 The Dean of Students 1766 00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:57,484 accused me of being drunk 1767 00:53:57,526 --> 00:53:59,945 and told me that I had, 1768 00:53:57,526 --> 00:53:59,945 like, a serious problem. 1769 00:53:59,987 --> 00:54:02,573 So, many of the survivors 1770 00:53:59,987 --> 00:54:02,573 coming forward were saying, 1771 00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:05,993 "My rape was bad, 1772 00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:05,993 but the way I was 1773 00:54:02,614 --> 00:54:05,993 treated was worse." 1774 00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:11,665 I was raped in the Honors Dorm 1775 00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:11,665 above the Department's Office. 1776 00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:15,211 And the Department Office 1777 00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:15,211 took my scholarship. 1778 00:54:11,707 --> 00:54:15,211 It just doesn't... 1779 00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:17,713 I was up working at 4:00, 1780 00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:17,713 and then I'd go to work, 1781 00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,298 and then I come back 1782 00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,298 and sometimes 1783 00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,298 there'd be survivors 1784 00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:22,384 in my apartment 1785 00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:22,384 that needed to talk. 1786 00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,762 You 1787 00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,762 probably hear stories 1788 00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,762 like this all the time. 1789 00:54:24,803 --> 00:54:28,515 I know, but it 1790 00:54:24,803 --> 00:54:28,515 doesn't make it any better. 1791 00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:32,477 Now I'm realizing 1792 00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:32,477 how much better I feel 1793 00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:32,477 from talking about it. 1794 00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,479 You're not alone. 1795 00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,479 You're not alone. 1796 00:54:34,521 --> 00:54:36,523 And no matter how 1797 00:54:34,521 --> 00:54:36,523 many awful things... 1798 00:54:36,565 --> 00:54:37,942 I basically had 1799 00:54:36,565 --> 00:54:37,942 to make a choice if I 1800 00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:40,194 wanted to continue 1801 00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:40,194 to support survivors 1802 00:54:40,236 --> 00:54:44,531 or have my actual 1803 00:54:40,236 --> 00:54:44,531 administrative 1804 00:54:40,236 --> 00:54:44,531 job at a university. 1805 00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:47,952 I figured I could do 1806 00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:47,952 more good this way, 1807 00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:47,952 so I resigned. 1808 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,663 On our to-do list, 1809 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,663 we have Vanderbilt. 1810 00:54:51,705 --> 00:54:53,665 Yep. 1811 00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:54,959 Um... 1812 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,668 U-Conn. 1813 00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:58,921 Formalizing a national network 1814 00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:58,921 is on our to-do list. 1815 00:54:58,963 --> 00:55:00,338 That's pending. 1816 00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:01,381 I found my paychecks. 1817 00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,224 What Drea and 1818 00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,224 I are looking to see 1819 00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,224 is how do we show that UNC, 1820 00:55:10,266 --> 00:55:11,976 it's not in isolation. 1821 00:55:13,602 --> 00:55:15,311 We started seeing, 1822 00:55:13,602 --> 00:55:15,311 you know, what was happening 1823 00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:17,022 at campuses 1824 00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:17,022 across the country. 1825 00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:25,156 We look at all 1826 00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:25,156 the cases we've heard, 1827 00:55:20,985 --> 00:55:25,156 then we make this map, 1828 00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:27,449 and every time another school 1829 00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:27,449 called or whatever, 1830 00:55:27,491 --> 00:55:29,243 we put a dot on the map. 1831 00:55:29,285 --> 00:55:30,828 And I remember 1832 00:55:29,285 --> 00:55:30,828 talking to Drea, and I'm like, 1833 00:55:30,869 --> 00:55:33,164 "Why has no one 1834 00:55:30,869 --> 00:55:33,164 connected the dots before?" 1835 00:55:33,205 --> 00:55:35,291 We have a case 1836 00:55:33,205 --> 00:55:35,291 at Amherst, Yale, 1837 00:55:35,331 --> 00:55:37,960 Penn State, 1838 00:55:35,331 --> 00:55:37,960 Berkeley, Oxy, UNC, 1839 00:55:38,002 --> 00:55:40,378 and nobody said, 1840 00:55:38,002 --> 00:55:40,378 "I think we should 1841 00:55:38,002 --> 00:55:40,378 connect these dots 1842 00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:41,672 "'cause there 1843 00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:41,672 might be something 1844 00:55:41,713 --> 00:55:44,883 "going on here, 1845 00:55:41,713 --> 00:55:44,883 bigger than one problem." 1846 00:55:44,925 --> 00:55:47,970 And you see how many people 1847 00:55:44,925 --> 00:55:47,970 are being impacted by them, 1848 00:55:48,012 --> 00:55:51,098 and every one of those dots 1849 00:55:48,012 --> 00:55:51,098 being more than one story. 1850 00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:52,348 You start to see 1851 00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:52,348 it as an epidemic. 1852 00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:56,603 What if we could 1853 00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:56,603 build a network? 1854 00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:59,439 What if we could 1855 00:55:56,645 --> 00:55:59,439 connect our stories? 1856 00:55:59,481 --> 00:56:01,900 We could actually 1857 00:55:59,481 --> 00:56:01,900 make campus rape 1858 00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:04,195 a problem that 1859 00:56:01,942 --> 00:56:04,195 people cared about. 1860 00:56:10,242 --> 00:56:11,367 Hi, Sofie! 1861 00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:13,329 Hello. 1862 00:56:14,663 --> 00:56:16,372 Hi! 1863 00:56:16,414 --> 00:56:17,415 Do you want to see Drea? 1864 00:56:19,751 --> 00:56:21,503 Can you see? 1865 00:56:21,545 --> 00:56:23,922 Drea! 1866 00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,133 Sofie was one of 1867 00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,133 the first activists 1868 00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,133 who reached out, 1869 00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:27,718 and she was from Berkeley. 1870 00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:30,428 There's been 1871 00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:30,428 an increase in the number 1872 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:33,182 of sexual assaults 1873 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:33,182 that have happened. 1874 00:56:33,224 --> 00:56:35,809 She's like, "This is exactly 1875 00:56:33,224 --> 00:56:35,809 what's happening at Berkeley. 1876 00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:37,978 "I know so many other people 1877 00:56:35,851 --> 00:56:37,978 that are dealing with this. 1878 00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:39,521 "How can we do what you did?" 1879 00:56:39,563 --> 00:56:41,397 And so, we started 1880 00:56:39,563 --> 00:56:41,397 working together. 1881 00:56:43,901 --> 00:56:44,902 Annie! 1882 00:56:44,943 --> 00:56:45,986 Hi! 1883 00:56:50,115 --> 00:56:52,408 How are you? 1884 00:56:50,115 --> 00:56:52,408 Hi! 1885 00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:53,577 Hi, how was your trip? 1886 00:56:53,618 --> 00:56:55,037 Are you scared of 1887 00:56:53,618 --> 00:56:55,037 retaliation at all? 1888 00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,581 Yeah. 1889 00:56:57,622 --> 00:57:01,919 So far, the students who know 1890 00:56:57,622 --> 00:57:01,919 have been really, 1891 00:56:57,622 --> 00:57:01,919 really supportive. 1892 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,547 I think that once maybe 1893 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,547 the fraternities find out, 1894 00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:09,218 then that could be bad. 1895 00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:13,597 It's called Collegiate ACB, 1896 00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:13,597 and there are all 1897 00:57:09,260 --> 00:57:13,597 of these fraternities 1898 00:57:13,638 --> 00:57:16,683 that post on it about, like, 1899 00:57:13,638 --> 00:57:16,683 "Who's the most attractive? 1900 00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,728 "Which house is 1901 00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,728 the best house?" 1902 00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:19,728 Or people that say, 1903 00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:23,440 "I was raped at 1904 00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:23,440 Sigma Chi last weekend." 1905 00:57:19,770 --> 00:57:23,440 Or "I was raped at Tke once." 1906 00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:26,777 Why is your name in it? 1907 00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:28,486 Oh, my God. 1908 00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:28,486 I don't know. 1909 00:57:28,528 --> 00:57:31,823 I did not think I was gonna be 1910 00:57:28,528 --> 00:57:31,823 on this stupid site. 1911 00:57:31,865 --> 00:57:33,491 Well, also how they 1912 00:57:31,865 --> 00:57:33,491 spelled your name, though. 1913 00:57:33,533 --> 00:57:34,952 I know. "Sofiem Karasekem"? 1914 00:57:36,578 --> 00:57:38,956 Whatever that means. 1915 00:57:36,578 --> 00:57:38,956 They wrote my name... 1916 00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:41,458 They wrote it in Latin. 1917 00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:41,458 I don't understand. 1918 00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:41,458 Probably search it? 1919 00:57:47,547 --> 00:57:48,465 Interesting. 1920 00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:12,697 The American 1921 00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:12,697 fraternity industry spans 1922 00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:14,699 thousands of 1923 00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:14,699 American colleges, 1924 00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:18,203 from the most elite, 1925 00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:18,203 private ivy 1926 00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:18,203 league institutions 1927 00:58:18,245 --> 00:58:19,663 to small regional colleges. 1928 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,710 We all know about 1929 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,710 inflicted trauma from hazing. 1930 00:58:25,752 --> 00:58:28,546 But it's a matter 1931 00:58:25,752 --> 00:58:28,546 of public record 1932 00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:31,549 that the second 1933 00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:31,549 most common type 1934 00:58:31,591 --> 00:58:33,260 of insurance claim against 1935 00:58:31,591 --> 00:58:33,260 the fraternity industry 1936 00:58:33,302 --> 00:58:35,637 is for sexual assault. 1937 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,514 I don't want to 1938 00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:37,514 single out fraternities 1939 00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:39,391 because it's actually 1940 00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:39,391 a minority of fraternities, 1941 00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,019 but what you inevitably get 1942 00:58:39,433 --> 00:58:42,019 are certain fraternities 1943 00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,563 where the sexual assault 1944 00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:45,563 is really rampant. 1945 00:58:45,605 --> 00:58:47,899 Within just, say, 1946 00:58:45,605 --> 00:58:47,899 the last five to 10 years, 1947 00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:50,277 Sigma Alpha Epsilon's 1948 00:58:47,941 --> 00:58:50,277 had a number of problems. 1949 00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:54,114 SAE is known at 1950 00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:54,114 a lot of places 1951 00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:54,114 as "Sexual Assault Expected." 1952 00:58:54,156 --> 00:58:56,074 Sexual Assault Expected. 1953 00:58:56,116 --> 00:58:57,951 Sexual Assault Expected. 1954 00:58:57,993 --> 00:58:59,661 SAE. Sexual Assault Expected. 1955 00:58:59,703 --> 00:59:01,246 Is there any, 1956 00:58:59,703 --> 00:59:01,246 like, parties or places 1957 00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:02,622 that you've been 1958 00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:02,622 warned not to go? 1959 00:59:02,664 --> 00:59:04,082 Yes, SAE. 1960 00:59:04,124 --> 00:59:05,750 Sexual Assault Expected. 1961 00:59:07,419 --> 00:59:10,422 Sigma Nu. 1962 00:59:07,419 --> 00:59:10,422 SAE. Dke, at the very top. 1963 00:59:10,464 --> 00:59:12,549 Those are, like, the main ones 1964 00:59:10,464 --> 00:59:12,549 where as a freshman 1965 00:59:10,464 --> 00:59:12,549 you're told, like, 1966 00:59:12,590 --> 00:59:13,800 "Don't go there." 1967 00:59:13,842 --> 00:59:15,511 There's one 1968 00:59:13,842 --> 00:59:15,511 fraternity on campus 1969 00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:17,637 that is called 1970 00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:17,637 "The Date Rape Frat." 1971 00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:19,723 Dke is known as 1972 00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:19,723 the Roofie Frat. 1973 00:59:19,764 --> 00:59:21,808 There is one that was called 1974 00:59:19,764 --> 00:59:21,808 the Rape Dungeon. 1975 00:59:24,602 --> 00:59:28,232 Once you get a group 1976 00:59:24,602 --> 00:59:28,232 of people like this 1977 00:59:24,602 --> 00:59:28,232 in that kind of 1978 00:59:28,273 --> 00:59:31,109 synergistic kind 1979 00:59:28,273 --> 00:59:31,109 of culture forming, 1980 00:59:31,151 --> 00:59:34,321 it intensifies this problem. 1981 00:59:34,363 --> 00:59:38,242 Pledges at 1982 00:59:34,363 --> 00:59:38,242 a fraternity at Yale 1983 00:59:34,363 --> 00:59:38,242 surrounded the dorm 1984 00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:42,037 where many of the freshman 1985 00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:42,037 girls lived, 1986 00:59:38,283 --> 00:59:42,037 at night, shouting... 1987 00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:47,459 "No" means "yes!" 1988 00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:47,459 "Yes" means "anal!" 1989 00:59:50,337 --> 00:59:51,963 "No" means "yes!" 1990 00:59:50,337 --> 00:59:51,963 "Yes" means "anal!" 1991 00:59:52,005 --> 00:59:54,674 I ended up pledging SAE, 1992 00:59:52,005 --> 00:59:54,674 Sigma Alpha Epsilon. 1993 00:59:54,716 --> 00:59:58,303 It's one of the largest 1994 00:59:54,716 --> 00:59:58,303 national fraternities, 1995 00:59:58,345 --> 01:00:02,349 somewhat notorious 1996 00:59:58,345 --> 01:00:02,349 for its bad reputation. 1997 01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,060 Every Wednesday 1998 01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,060 night we would have 1999 01:00:02,391 --> 01:00:05,060 what we would call meetings 2000 01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:09,231 where all the brothers, 2001 01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:09,231 usually about 70 if 2002 01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:09,231 all were in attendance, 2003 01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,277 would gather in the basement 2004 01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,277 and begin a highly 2005 01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,277 structured ritual 2006 01:00:13,318 --> 01:00:16,696 exchanging stories 2007 01:00:13,318 --> 01:00:16,696 of sexual conquest. 2008 01:00:16,738 --> 01:00:19,366 If a brother had had 2009 01:00:16,738 --> 01:00:19,366 anal sex with a woman, 2010 01:00:19,408 --> 01:00:20,951 that would be mentioned, 2011 01:00:20,992 --> 01:00:23,454 and that would be a kind of 2012 01:00:20,992 --> 01:00:23,454 a pat-on-the-back moment. 2013 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,081 And I think that 2014 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,081 that's something 2015 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,081 that the women at Dartmouth 2016 01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:29,167 who hooked up with 2017 01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:29,167 the fraternity brothers 2018 01:00:26,123 --> 01:00:29,167 didn't really know. 2019 01:00:29,209 --> 01:00:33,088 That guy who tried 2020 01:00:29,209 --> 01:00:33,088 to sexually assault me at ATO, 2021 01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:34,381 he was a pledge 2022 01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:34,381 at the time, right? 2023 01:00:34,423 --> 01:00:37,342 And so, all the pledges 2024 01:00:34,423 --> 01:00:37,342 had to, like, 2025 01:00:37,384 --> 01:00:41,805 photograph girls without 2026 01:00:37,384 --> 01:00:41,805 anything on their tops, right? 2027 01:00:41,846 --> 01:00:42,847 What? 2028 01:00:42,889 --> 01:00:44,182 Had to photograph 2029 01:00:42,889 --> 01:00:44,182 shirtless girls. 2030 01:00:44,224 --> 01:00:45,976 I hate that. 2031 01:00:44,224 --> 01:00:45,976 And so, 2032 01:00:44,224 --> 01:00:45,976 apparently in the basement 2033 01:00:46,017 --> 01:00:50,730 there were pictures of girls 2034 01:00:46,017 --> 01:00:50,730 and just, like, their tits. 2035 01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,985 And apparently 2036 01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,985 this kid who was, 2037 01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,985 like, so pushy with me, 2038 01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:56,487 he had, like, 2039 01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:56,487 the most pictures of girls. 2040 01:00:56,528 --> 01:00:58,447 So, when he comes at me, 2041 01:00:58,489 --> 01:01:01,116 his behavior of 2042 01:00:58,489 --> 01:01:01,116 being sexually aggressive 2043 01:00:58,489 --> 01:01:01,116 gets rewarded by his brothers. 2044 01:01:07,998 --> 01:01:10,834 Fraternities are essentially 2045 01:01:07,998 --> 01:01:10,834 unregulated bars. 2046 01:01:10,875 --> 01:01:13,920 And the individuals 2047 01:01:10,875 --> 01:01:13,920 that are responsible 2048 01:01:10,875 --> 01:01:13,920 for managing that alcohol 2049 01:01:13,962 --> 01:01:16,673 are themselves legally 2050 01:01:13,962 --> 01:01:16,673 incapable of consuming it. 2051 01:01:18,133 --> 01:01:19,759 Most sororities 2052 01:01:18,133 --> 01:01:19,759 don't throw parties, 2053 01:01:19,801 --> 01:01:21,553 because you can't 2054 01:01:19,801 --> 01:01:21,553 have alcohol at all 2055 01:01:21,595 --> 01:01:24,139 on the premises, 2056 01:01:21,595 --> 01:01:24,139 even if you're over 21. 2057 01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:27,767 So, if sorority 2058 01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:27,767 women want to drink 2059 01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:27,767 or go to a party even, at all, 2060 01:01:27,809 --> 01:01:29,561 they have to do 2061 01:01:27,809 --> 01:01:29,561 it at a fraternity 2062 01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:33,731 where the fraternity 2063 01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:33,731 brothers control 2064 01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:33,731 the dispersion of alcohol. 2065 01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:36,485 Usually, the drinks 2066 01:01:33,773 --> 01:01:36,485 had Everclear in them. 2067 01:01:36,527 --> 01:01:37,986 What's Everclear? 2068 01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:42,866 It's a very strong 2069 01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:42,866 form of alcohol, and I... 2070 01:01:42,907 --> 01:01:44,368 The reason why they 2071 01:01:42,907 --> 01:01:44,368 put it in there is 2072 01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:46,411 because it would 2073 01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:46,411 get you drunk quickly. 2074 01:01:46,453 --> 01:01:47,912 The idea would 2075 01:01:46,453 --> 01:01:47,912 be to get everyone 2076 01:01:47,954 --> 01:01:49,665 so incredibly intoxicated, 2077 01:01:47,954 --> 01:01:49,665 you know, 2078 01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:51,749 blackout drunk, 2079 01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:51,749 that would increase the 2080 01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,210 chances that people 2081 01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,210 would be getting laid. 2082 01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:58,382 There was certainly something 2083 01:01:55,170 --> 01:01:58,382 predatory about it. 2084 01:01:58,423 --> 01:01:59,883 The fraternity 2085 01:01:58,423 --> 01:01:59,883 brothers took great pride 2086 01:01:59,924 --> 01:02:02,093 in having 2087 01:01:59,924 --> 01:02:02,093 a predator/prey relationship 2088 01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,888 with the women that would come 2089 01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,888 to these parties. 2090 01:02:06,306 --> 01:02:07,765 So, I was at 2091 01:02:06,306 --> 01:02:07,765 a fraternity party. 2092 01:02:07,807 --> 01:02:09,393 I went to a fraternity. 2093 01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,770 I went to 2094 01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,770 a fraternity party at MIT. 2095 01:02:12,812 --> 01:02:16,774 I'd never really, I guess, 2096 01:02:12,812 --> 01:02:16,774 been in a situation like that. 2097 01:02:19,777 --> 01:02:22,197 He came up to me and 2098 01:02:19,777 --> 01:02:22,197 we started talking. 2099 01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:23,574 He was just this guy 2100 01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:23,574 I thought was cute, 2101 01:02:23,615 --> 01:02:25,825 and then we were 2102 01:02:23,615 --> 01:02:25,825 just dancing at Fiji. 2103 01:02:25,867 --> 01:02:29,413 This big frat 2104 01:02:25,867 --> 01:02:29,413 brother came up to me 2105 01:02:25,867 --> 01:02:29,413 and he put his arm around me, 2106 01:02:29,454 --> 01:02:32,790 and he took me 2107 01:02:29,454 --> 01:02:32,790 away from my friends, 2108 01:02:29,454 --> 01:02:32,790 but he was really nice. 2109 01:02:32,832 --> 01:02:37,754 A friend, at the time, um, 2110 01:02:32,832 --> 01:02:37,754 really fed me a lot of drinks. 2111 01:02:37,795 --> 01:02:40,757 He said, 2112 01:02:37,795 --> 01:02:40,757 "Why don't we go outside?" 2113 01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:42,175 He asked if I 2114 01:02:40,798 --> 01:02:42,175 wanted to go upstairs. 2115 01:02:42,217 --> 01:02:43,343 We went upstairs. 2116 01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:45,803 And he invited me 2117 01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:45,803 to go into a room. 2118 01:02:45,845 --> 01:02:47,055 He took me 2119 01:02:45,845 --> 01:02:47,055 downstairs to their basement. 2120 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:52,352 He pinned me against the wall, 2121 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:52,352 and took off my clothes, 2122 01:02:52,394 --> 01:02:54,938 and assaulted me. 2123 01:02:54,979 --> 01:02:58,275 That's when they 2124 01:02:54,979 --> 01:02:58,275 both assaulted me. 2125 01:02:58,316 --> 01:03:00,277 I was assaulted by 2126 01:02:58,316 --> 01:03:00,277 at least two members 2127 01:02:58,316 --> 01:03:00,277 of their fraternity. 2128 01:03:04,531 --> 01:03:06,700 It's extremely difficult, 2129 01:03:06,742 --> 01:03:09,160 if not impossible, 2130 01:03:06,742 --> 01:03:09,160 to get accurate information 2131 01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:12,122 about whether or 2132 01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:12,122 not there have been 2133 01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:12,122 sexual assaults 2134 01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:14,916 in a particular 2135 01:03:12,163 --> 01:03:14,916 fraternity house. 2136 01:03:14,958 --> 01:03:16,793 What you find in many 2137 01:03:14,958 --> 01:03:16,793 circumstances is that 2138 01:03:16,834 --> 01:03:19,087 universities have 2139 01:03:16,834 --> 01:03:19,087 created contractual 2140 01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:21,131 relationships 2141 01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:21,131 with fraternities 2142 01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,800 that involve them 2143 01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,800 promoting the fraternities, 2144 01:03:23,841 --> 01:03:26,136 but not then also disclosing 2145 01:03:26,177 --> 01:03:28,846 the risks that they've had 2146 01:03:26,177 --> 01:03:28,846 with those fraternities. 2147 01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:31,015 On the Johns Hopkins 2148 01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:31,015 University campus today, 2149 01:03:31,057 --> 01:03:34,561 following 2150 01:03:31,057 --> 01:03:34,561 allegations of a gang rape 2151 01:03:31,057 --> 01:03:34,561 at an off campus fraternity. 2152 01:03:34,603 --> 01:03:35,853 Students say the university 2153 01:03:35,895 --> 01:03:38,189 failed to tell students 2154 01:03:35,895 --> 01:03:38,189 about the investigation. 2155 01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:40,651 Problem after 2156 01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:40,651 problem after problem 2157 01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:44,321 for the Sigma Alpha 2158 01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:44,321 Epsilon fraternity at UNM. 2159 01:03:44,362 --> 01:03:47,407 And that was before 2160 01:03:44,362 --> 01:03:47,407 a new claim of rape. 2161 01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:50,201 Digging for 2162 01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:50,201 answers after the same 2163 01:03:47,449 --> 01:03:50,201 Yale frat house 2164 01:03:50,243 --> 01:03:51,828 has had a whole 2165 01:03:50,243 --> 01:03:51,828 bunch of problems. 2166 01:03:53,204 --> 01:03:54,414 I'm telling you, 2167 01:03:53,204 --> 01:03:54,414 almost every time 2168 01:03:54,456 --> 01:03:56,333 there's a rape in 2169 01:03:54,456 --> 01:03:56,333 a fraternity chapter, 2170 01:03:56,374 --> 01:03:58,418 there's someone 2171 01:03:56,374 --> 01:03:58,418 at the university, 2172 01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,796 certainly the person 2173 01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,796 who's in the office of 2174 01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,796 Greek residence life, 2175 01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:02,255 who's paid for 2176 01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:02,255 by the university, 2177 01:04:02,297 --> 01:04:04,215 he or she knew 2178 01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:07,135 that that chapter was likely 2179 01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:07,135 to have a rape sometime. 2180 01:04:07,177 --> 01:04:09,471 But they won't 2181 01:04:07,177 --> 01:04:09,471 tell the young women. 2182 01:04:09,513 --> 01:04:12,890 Or if they do, 2183 01:04:09,513 --> 01:04:12,890 there's hell to pay 2184 01:04:09,513 --> 01:04:12,890 for these college presidents. 2185 01:04:12,932 --> 01:04:14,476 It's happened at Wesleyan. 2186 01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:17,145 There was 2187 01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:17,145 a problem fraternity, 2188 01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:17,145 Beta Theta Pi. 2189 01:04:17,187 --> 01:04:19,105 The university sent 2190 01:04:17,187 --> 01:04:19,105 a letter in the spring 2191 01:04:19,147 --> 01:04:20,857 to all students 2192 01:04:19,147 --> 01:04:20,857 and all parents. 2193 01:04:29,032 --> 01:04:31,159 The fraternity went ballistic. 2194 01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:33,911 The parents of 2195 01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:33,911 the fraternity brothers 2196 01:04:31,201 --> 01:04:33,911 went ballistic, 2197 01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:35,831 and the new class of 2198 01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:35,831 freshman women came in, 2199 01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:37,081 and they didn't 2200 01:04:35,872 --> 01:04:37,081 send the warning to 2201 01:04:37,123 --> 01:04:38,416 the new class of 2202 01:04:37,123 --> 01:04:38,416 freshman women. 2203 01:04:38,458 --> 01:04:39,710 It was Halloween weekend 2204 01:04:39,751 --> 01:04:42,003 before a girl was 2205 01:04:39,751 --> 01:04:42,003 violently raped upstairs. 2206 01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:43,338 Frat house at 2207 01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:43,338 Wesleyan University 2208 01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:45,549 is facing 2209 01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:45,549 a lawsuit by a student 2210 01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:47,133 who claims she was raped. 2211 01:04:47,175 --> 01:04:49,845 And this isn't the first time 2212 01:04:47,175 --> 01:04:49,845 that frat has come under fire. 2213 01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:54,015 After that rape, 2214 01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:54,015 a young woman shows up 2215 01:04:54,057 --> 01:04:56,560 at an emergency room 2216 01:04:54,057 --> 01:04:56,560 in Middletown, Connecticut. 2217 01:04:56,601 --> 01:04:58,436 "I was assaulted 2218 01:04:56,601 --> 01:04:58,436 at Beta Theta Pi." 2219 01:05:01,815 --> 01:05:03,941 It's to me 2220 01:05:01,815 --> 01:05:03,941 outrageous the extent 2221 01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:05,902 that our colleges 2222 01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:05,902 and universities 2223 01:05:05,943 --> 01:05:09,030 are complicit in 2224 01:05:05,943 --> 01:05:09,030 the sexual assault 2225 01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,825 of young women at 2226 01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,825 these fraternity houses. 2227 01:05:11,867 --> 01:05:13,034 So, why don't the schools 2228 01:05:13,076 --> 01:05:15,203 just disassociate themselves 2229 01:05:13,076 --> 01:05:15,203 from the fraternities 2230 01:05:15,245 --> 01:05:17,955 and kick them off campus? 2231 01:05:17,997 --> 01:05:20,041 Right. Well, 2232 01:05:17,997 --> 01:05:20,041 the colleges and universities 2233 01:05:20,083 --> 01:05:22,043 have much more to gain 2234 01:05:20,083 --> 01:05:22,043 from the fraternities 2235 01:05:22,085 --> 01:05:23,503 than the fraternities 2236 01:05:22,085 --> 01:05:23,503 have to gain 2237 01:05:23,545 --> 01:05:24,796 from the colleges 2238 01:05:23,545 --> 01:05:24,796 and universities. 2239 01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:31,094 One out of every 2240 01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:31,094 eight college students 2241 01:05:31,135 --> 01:05:33,764 living on campus 2242 01:05:31,135 --> 01:05:33,764 lives in Greek housing. 2243 01:05:33,805 --> 01:05:35,766 That's a tremendous 2244 01:05:33,805 --> 01:05:35,766 amount of housing stock 2245 01:05:35,807 --> 01:05:38,810 the colleges 2246 01:05:35,807 --> 01:05:38,810 don't have to pay for, 2247 01:05:35,807 --> 01:05:38,810 don't have to supervise. 2248 01:05:38,852 --> 01:05:40,353 You also have to remember 2249 01:05:40,395 --> 01:05:43,690 you tie alumni to your campus 2250 01:05:40,395 --> 01:05:43,690 in a very powerful way 2251 01:05:43,732 --> 01:05:45,108 when you have 2252 01:05:43,732 --> 01:05:45,108 a fraternity system. 2253 01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:50,947 Alumni giving 2254 01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:50,947 is a massive part 2255 01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:50,947 of your annual giving, 2256 01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:53,408 and a large part of that 2257 01:05:50,988 --> 01:05:53,408 is fraternity membership. 2258 01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:04,961 It's a deeply 2259 01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:04,961 powerful industry. 2260 01:06:05,002 --> 01:06:07,004 You start tracing 2261 01:06:05,002 --> 01:06:07,004 back and you find out 2262 01:06:07,046 --> 01:06:09,841 they're pouring money 2263 01:06:07,046 --> 01:06:09,841 into political campaigns, 2264 01:06:09,883 --> 01:06:12,594 and they're 2265 01:06:09,883 --> 01:06:12,594 hugely overrepresented. 2266 01:06:12,636 --> 01:06:14,137 There's no 2267 01:06:12,636 --> 01:06:14,137 college or university, 2268 01:06:14,178 --> 01:06:16,264 or type of 2269 01:06:14,178 --> 01:06:16,264 college or university 2270 01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:18,767 that's more 2271 01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:18,767 represented within Congress 2272 01:06:18,809 --> 01:06:22,479 than the fraternity 2273 01:06:18,809 --> 01:06:22,479 system itself is. 2274 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,773 So, people are very 2275 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,773 loathed to get involved 2276 01:06:24,815 --> 01:06:26,983 and very loathed to come up 2277 01:06:24,815 --> 01:06:26,983 against the fraternity system. 2278 01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,405 Checklist? 2279 01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,405 Phone charger? 2280 01:06:32,447 --> 01:06:33,698 Mmm-hmm. 2281 01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:34,783 Laptop? 2282 01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:34,783 Mmm-hmm. 2283 01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:44,417 It's not 2284 01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:44,417 a coincidence that you can 2285 01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:45,919 fly to Boston and 2286 01:06:44,459 --> 01:06:45,919 fly to California 2287 01:06:45,961 --> 01:06:47,587 and hear the same stories. 2288 01:06:49,631 --> 01:06:51,591 We started 2289 01:06:49,631 --> 01:06:51,591 visiting other campuses. 2290 01:06:51,633 --> 01:06:53,259 We felt that if 2291 01:06:51,633 --> 01:06:53,259 we created a model 2292 01:06:53,301 --> 01:06:54,678 for how to file 2293 01:06:53,301 --> 01:06:54,678 a Title IX Complaint, 2294 01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:56,220 others would do it. 2295 01:07:08,817 --> 01:07:13,196 These are our two fraternities 2296 01:07:08,817 --> 01:07:13,196 where a student was 2297 01:07:08,817 --> 01:07:13,196 sexually assaulted. 2298 01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:15,866 And it was going there 2299 01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:15,866 and being walked 2300 01:07:13,237 --> 01:07:15,866 to the fraternities 2301 01:07:15,907 --> 01:07:18,785 and being walked to where 2302 01:07:15,907 --> 01:07:18,785 their assaults had happened. 2303 01:07:18,827 --> 01:07:21,245 You know, 2304 01:07:18,827 --> 01:07:21,245 details that were critical 2305 01:07:18,827 --> 01:07:21,245 for every single case. 2306 01:07:22,664 --> 01:07:24,040 Weird, right? 2307 01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:27,836 So, for the email 2308 01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:27,836 I'm just gonna... 2309 01:07:27,878 --> 01:07:31,130 So we move forward 2310 01:07:27,878 --> 01:07:31,130 with this model saying, 2311 01:07:27,878 --> 01:07:31,130 "Here's a complaint. 2312 01:07:31,172 --> 01:07:32,590 "Here's how this 2313 01:07:31,172 --> 01:07:32,590 process works." 2314 01:07:33,884 --> 01:07:35,802 My 21st birthday, 2315 01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:38,930 I was helping 2316 01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:38,930 students at Swarthmore 2317 01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:38,930 file a Title IX Complaint. 2318 01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,192 So, I think, 2319 01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,192 I went to Columbia twice 2320 01:07:48,857 --> 01:07:51,192 before they filed. 2321 01:07:51,234 --> 01:07:52,360 Just sat down with 2322 01:07:51,234 --> 01:07:52,360 a group of students 2323 01:07:52,402 --> 01:07:54,988 and talked them through 2324 01:07:52,402 --> 01:07:54,988 how to file a complaint. 2325 01:07:55,030 --> 01:07:58,408 If people are 2326 01:07:55,030 --> 01:07:58,408 going to talk publicly, 2327 01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:01,036 then it needs 2328 01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:01,036 to be about their 2329 01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:01,036 treatment here at Columbia. 2330 01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:02,787 Focus on Columbia. 2331 01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:02,787 Yeah. 2332 01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:06,457 We don't have lawyers. 2333 01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:06,457 You have 2334 01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:06,457 18-19-year-old students 2335 01:08:06,499 --> 01:08:10,294 who are standing up 2336 01:08:06,499 --> 01:08:10,294 to their institutions. 2337 01:08:10,336 --> 01:08:13,297 We are at Amherst, 2338 01:08:10,336 --> 01:08:13,297 and we found a place to stay. 2339 01:08:14,507 --> 01:08:16,092 Hi, Drea. 2340 01:08:16,927 --> 01:08:18,720 Where we sleeping tonight? 2341 01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:21,097 Out on the least 2342 01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:21,097 terrifying parking lot. 2343 01:08:22,724 --> 01:08:26,102 And we are 2344 01:08:22,724 --> 01:08:26,102 changing and doing stuff 2345 01:08:22,724 --> 01:08:26,102 in a Wendy's bathroom. Yay. 2346 01:08:38,489 --> 01:08:40,241 I found politicizing 2347 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,746 my own experience 2348 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,746 to be actually 2349 01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:44,746 the most helpful step. 2350 01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,041 It's really 2351 01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,041 exciting to actually get to 2352 01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,041 meet the other activists. 2353 01:08:48,083 --> 01:08:51,836 I had felt so cared for, 2354 01:08:48,083 --> 01:08:51,836 until I actually needed Yale, 2355 01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:54,839 at which point I became this, 2356 01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:54,839 like, administrative matter. 2357 01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:58,509 The administration 2358 01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:58,509 kept telling us to, 2359 01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:58,509 "Take our foot off the pedal." 2360 01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:12,398 Hi. 2361 01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:12,398 Hi. 2362 01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:14,025 Nice to meet you. I'm Annie. 2363 01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:15,902 I'm Rachel. Nice to meet you. 2364 01:09:14,067 --> 01:09:15,902 Nice to meet you. 2365 01:09:15,944 --> 01:09:18,571 I just decided to 2366 01:09:15,944 --> 01:09:18,571 take some time off, kind of. 2367 01:09:18,613 --> 01:09:21,699 I moved here with my sister, 2368 01:09:18,613 --> 01:09:21,699 and I've been a nanny 2369 01:09:21,741 --> 01:09:23,326 and it's the most 2370 01:09:21,741 --> 01:09:23,326 amazing thing, so... 2371 01:09:23,367 --> 01:09:24,911 That's so cool. Yeah. 2372 01:09:24,953 --> 01:09:30,750 And, seeing the two 2373 01:09:24,953 --> 01:09:30,750 little girls 2374 01:09:24,953 --> 01:09:30,750 that I nanny for, I like... 2375 01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:34,420 One of the reasons 2376 01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:34,420 I've wanted to do this 2377 01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:34,420 is, like, I never want... 2378 01:09:38,466 --> 01:09:41,886 Them to ever have to deal with 2379 01:09:38,466 --> 01:09:41,886 something like this. 2380 01:09:44,305 --> 01:09:46,349 So, it's really late, 2381 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:51,104 and, um, we have 2382 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:51,104 a survivor who's cutting, 2383 01:09:51,146 --> 01:09:53,648 and she doesn't 2384 01:09:51,146 --> 01:09:53,648 know if she can stop. 2385 01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:58,987 The worst 2386 01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:58,987 part for me has been 2387 01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:01,823 having to 2388 01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:01,823 relive the experience 2389 01:09:59,029 --> 01:10:01,823 of everybody else. 2390 01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,993 This vicarious 2391 01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,993 trauma that I couldn't 2392 01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,993 process anymore. 2393 01:10:05,035 --> 01:10:06,369 It's just not fair. 2394 01:10:07,411 --> 01:10:08,997 It's really not fair. 2395 01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:14,961 But it's the only way 2396 01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:14,961 I get up in the morning. 2397 01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,338 I would've given 2398 01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,338 anything to have had 2399 01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,338 someone who believed me, 2400 01:10:17,380 --> 01:10:19,090 someone who supported me. 2401 01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:27,557 Hi! 2402 01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:27,557 Hi! 2403 01:10:29,142 --> 01:10:30,685 Hi, I'm Andrea. 2404 01:10:29,142 --> 01:10:30,685 I'm Abby. 2405 01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:32,145 Nice to meet you, Abby. 2406 01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:32,145 Nice to meet you. 2407 01:10:32,187 --> 01:10:33,813 Andrea. Nice to meet you. 2408 01:10:32,187 --> 01:10:33,813 Hi. Good to meet you. 2409 01:10:35,606 --> 01:10:39,485 I was raped by 2410 01:10:35,606 --> 01:10:39,485 a basketball player 2411 01:10:35,606 --> 01:10:39,485 at the University of Tulsa. 2412 01:10:39,527 --> 01:10:42,197 And I felt like 2413 01:10:39,527 --> 01:10:42,197 because he was an athlete, 2414 01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:46,159 everyone was 2415 01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:46,159 acting like he's worth 2416 01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:48,870 more than I am 2417 01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:48,870 because he's an athlete. 2418 01:10:48,912 --> 01:10:52,123 And that's what happens 2419 01:10:48,912 --> 01:10:52,123 over and over and over again. 2420 01:10:52,165 --> 01:10:54,209 It's, like, you need 2421 01:10:52,165 --> 01:10:54,209 to re-read your 2422 01:10:52,165 --> 01:10:54,209 mission statement. 2423 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:55,626 Like, "Are you here 2424 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:55,626 to play sports? 2425 01:10:55,668 --> 01:10:57,754 "Or are you here to educate 2426 01:10:55,668 --> 01:10:57,754 and protect your students?" 2427 01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:03,218 An alleged sexual assault case 2428 01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:03,218 involving three 2429 01:10:59,964 --> 01:11:03,218 basketball players. 2430 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,261 Four former 2431 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,261 Vanderbilt University 2432 01:11:05,302 --> 01:11:07,388 football players 2433 01:11:05,302 --> 01:11:07,388 are charged with rape. 2434 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,641 Derrick 2435 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,641 Washington already had 2436 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,641 a documented history 2437 01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:12,894 of violence against 2438 01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:12,894 women at Missouri. 2439 01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:15,521 It was former Michigan kicker 2440 01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:15,521 Brendan Gibbons 2441 01:11:15,563 --> 01:11:19,275 involved in 2442 01:11:15,563 --> 01:11:19,275 the alleged sexual assault 2443 01:11:15,563 --> 01:11:19,275 of a woman back in 2009. 2444 01:11:19,316 --> 01:11:21,318 This is the fifth 2445 01:11:19,316 --> 01:11:21,318 student athlete 2446 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,987 to be accused of 2447 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,987 sexual assault on campus. 2448 01:11:32,288 --> 01:11:34,457 I really do 2449 01:11:32,288 --> 01:11:34,457 believe the vast majority 2450 01:11:32,288 --> 01:11:34,457 of student athletes 2451 01:11:34,498 --> 01:11:36,292 are worthy of our admiration. 2452 01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:38,586 I think they're mostly, 2453 01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:38,586 for the most part, 2454 01:11:38,628 --> 01:11:40,379 a lot of good people out there 2455 01:11:38,628 --> 01:11:40,379 who are trying to 2456 01:11:38,628 --> 01:11:40,379 do the right thing. 2457 01:11:41,297 --> 01:11:43,174 But when you have 2458 01:11:43,216 --> 01:11:47,137 18 to 22-year-old 2459 01:11:43,216 --> 01:11:47,137 kids who are celebrities, 2460 01:11:47,178 --> 01:11:51,307 it creates a toxic environment 2461 01:11:47,178 --> 01:11:51,307 for a lot of bad behavior. 2462 01:11:52,142 --> 01:11:53,851 When they walk across campus, 2463 01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:57,063 it's not like 2464 01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:57,063 any other student 2465 01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:57,063 walking across campus. 2466 01:11:57,105 --> 01:11:59,065 There's a multi-billion-dollar 2467 01:11:57,105 --> 01:11:59,065 industry 2468 01:11:59,107 --> 01:12:01,067 that wraps around 2469 01:11:59,107 --> 01:12:01,067 these young men, 2470 01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,903 and if you don't 2471 01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,903 think that they're part 2472 01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,903 of a culture of entitlement, 2473 01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:06,322 just look at the fanfare 2474 01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:06,322 that's around 2475 01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:06,322 college football. 2476 01:12:26,425 --> 01:12:28,678 I grew up 2477 01:12:26,425 --> 01:12:28,678 in Zephyrhills, Florida. 2478 01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,721 It's a small town, 2479 01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,721 so everybody 2480 01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:30,721 does know everybody. 2481 01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:35,185 I've lived there 2482 01:12:32,265 --> 01:12:35,185 my entire life. 2483 01:12:35,226 --> 01:12:38,146 I did very well 2484 01:12:35,226 --> 01:12:38,146 in high school. 2485 01:12:35,226 --> 01:12:38,146 I graduated with honors. 2486 01:12:39,396 --> 01:12:41,858 I took a lot of AP 2487 01:12:39,396 --> 01:12:41,858 and honors classes. 2488 01:12:43,276 --> 01:12:45,236 When I was younger, 2489 01:12:45,278 --> 01:12:46,737 a family friend 2490 01:12:45,278 --> 01:12:46,737 of ours gave me 2491 01:12:46,779 --> 01:12:49,157 a Florida State 2492 01:12:46,779 --> 01:12:49,157 cheerleading uniform, 2493 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:50,574 and it came with pom-poms. 2494 01:12:52,327 --> 01:12:55,163 She was the best child 2495 01:12:52,327 --> 01:12:55,163 any father could have. 2496 01:12:55,913 --> 01:12:57,581 She was fabulous. 2497 01:12:57,623 --> 01:13:01,211 Never any problems. 2498 01:12:57,623 --> 01:13:01,211 Always had a great smile. 2499 01:13:01,252 --> 01:13:04,380 Just a joy to be around. 2500 01:13:04,421 --> 01:13:07,633 She kept saying she was going 2501 01:13:04,421 --> 01:13:07,633 to FSU, going to FSU, 2502 01:13:07,675 --> 01:13:09,802 and then when she 2503 01:13:07,675 --> 01:13:09,802 first got there, 2504 01:13:09,844 --> 01:13:11,929 I knew she made 2505 01:13:09,844 --> 01:13:11,929 the right choice. 2506 01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:15,308 My first 2507 01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:15,308 semester was really... 2508 01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:17,060 It was a lot of 2509 01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:17,060 science classes. 2510 01:13:17,101 --> 01:13:19,770 I was in six classes. 2511 01:13:19,812 --> 01:13:21,814 I wanted to go to med school. 2512 01:13:21,856 --> 01:13:25,068 I didn't go out a lot 2513 01:13:21,856 --> 01:13:25,068 just because I was 2514 01:13:21,856 --> 01:13:25,068 in a lot of classes. 2515 01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,908 So, it was 2516 01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,908 the week before finals, 2517 01:13:27,195 --> 01:13:31,908 and we drove to Potbelly's, 2518 01:13:32,909 --> 01:13:35,661 and we were just hanging out. 2519 01:13:35,703 --> 01:13:38,455 This guy started 2520 01:13:35,703 --> 01:13:38,455 following me around, 2521 01:13:38,497 --> 01:13:42,377 and I, like, 2522 01:13:38,497 --> 01:13:42,377 said to him, "What? Stop." 2523 01:13:38,497 --> 01:13:42,377 You know, "Stop following us." 2524 01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:45,838 And a man standing at the bar 2525 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,550 saw that I was uncomfortable 2526 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,550 with this guy following me, 2527 01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:52,053 and so, he kind of like, 2528 01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:52,053 grabbed me and was like, 2529 01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:55,139 "This is my girlfriend. 2530 01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:55,139 Leave her alone." 2531 01:13:55,181 --> 01:13:56,682 And I was like, "Thank you." 2532 01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,976 The guy left, 2533 01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,976 and I was just like, 2534 01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:58,976 "Thank you." 2535 01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:02,313 And he's like, 2536 01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:02,313 "Do you wanna take a shot?" 2537 01:13:59,018 --> 01:14:02,313 And I said, "Sure." 2538 01:14:02,355 --> 01:14:05,775 So, I turned around, like, 2539 01:14:02,355 --> 01:14:05,775 to make sure that 2540 01:14:02,355 --> 01:14:05,775 this guy was gone 2541 01:14:05,816 --> 01:14:08,069 and when I turned back around 2542 01:14:05,816 --> 01:14:08,069 he handed me a shot. 2543 01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:14,367 I'm fairly 2544 01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:14,367 certain that there was 2545 01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:14,367 something in that drink. 2546 01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:18,079 As a college student, 2547 01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:18,079 I had been drunk before, 2548 01:14:18,121 --> 01:14:20,706 and I had not 2549 01:14:18,121 --> 01:14:20,706 drank nearly enough 2550 01:14:20,748 --> 01:14:23,834 to become drunk 2551 01:14:20,748 --> 01:14:23,834 and incompetent that night. 2552 01:14:26,837 --> 01:14:31,467 I remember being in a cab, 2553 01:14:26,837 --> 01:14:31,467 and there were three 2554 01:14:26,837 --> 01:14:31,467 guys in the cab also. 2555 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,804 Anyone you ask 2556 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,804 would tell you, like, 2557 01:14:34,845 --> 01:14:36,931 I never would go 2558 01:14:34,845 --> 01:14:36,931 home with a guy, period, 2559 01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:39,934 and especially 2560 01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:39,934 not three people 2561 01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:39,934 that I didn't know. 2562 01:14:41,436 --> 01:14:43,271 I remember specific 2563 01:14:41,436 --> 01:14:43,271 things after that. 2564 01:14:44,355 --> 01:14:46,274 I was in an apartment, 2565 01:14:47,108 --> 01:14:49,485 and this guy was... 2566 01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:54,657 Sexually assaulting me. 2567 01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:54,657 He was raping me. 2568 01:14:54,698 --> 01:14:57,493 He was on top of me, 2569 01:14:54,698 --> 01:14:57,493 and I couldn't 2570 01:14:54,698 --> 01:14:57,493 really breathe that much, 2571 01:14:57,534 --> 01:15:00,330 but I was saying, 2572 01:14:57,534 --> 01:15:00,330 "Please stop. Stop." 2573 01:15:00,371 --> 01:15:05,960 Like, I remember his roommate 2574 01:15:00,371 --> 01:15:05,960 or whoever this other guy was, 2575 01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,630 came in and he was saying, 2576 01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,630 "Dude, stop. 2577 01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,630 Like, what are you doing? 2578 01:15:09,672 --> 01:15:11,382 "She's telling you to stop." 2579 01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:15,136 Since his door to the bedroom 2580 01:15:12,758 --> 01:15:15,136 wouldn't lock, 2581 01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:19,598 he picked me up 2582 01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:19,598 and he carried me 2583 01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:19,598 into the bathroom. 2584 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,767 He said, 2585 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,767 "The door will lock in here." 2586 01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,939 He put me on 2587 01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,939 the tile bathroom floor. 2588 01:15:26,981 --> 01:15:30,026 I was trying to, like, 2589 01:15:26,981 --> 01:15:30,026 push him off, 2590 01:15:26,981 --> 01:15:30,026 and kick him off, 2591 01:15:30,067 --> 01:15:32,028 but he was just too big. 2592 01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:35,531 And I said, "Please stop," 2593 01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:35,531 multiple times, 2594 01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:35,531 and I said, "No". 2595 01:15:35,572 --> 01:15:38,659 Eventually he pushed 2596 01:15:35,572 --> 01:15:38,659 his hand over my face 2597 01:15:38,701 --> 01:15:40,703 and pushed my 2598 01:15:38,701 --> 01:15:40,703 face into the floor. 2599 01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:45,541 And he just 2600 01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:45,541 continued to rape me. 2601 01:15:48,044 --> 01:15:50,880 He finished and then he put 2602 01:15:48,044 --> 01:15:50,880 my clothes back on, 2603 01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:54,591 and he said, 2604 01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:54,591 "You can leave now." 2605 01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:58,012 And then he's like, 2606 01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:58,012 "I'll take you 2607 01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:58,012 home on my scooter." 2608 01:15:58,054 --> 01:16:01,349 I mean, okay. 2609 01:15:58,054 --> 01:16:01,349 I had no idea where I was. 2610 01:16:01,391 --> 01:16:03,226 I didn't know how else 2611 01:16:01,391 --> 01:16:03,226 I was supposed to get home. 2612 01:16:04,227 --> 01:16:06,187 I wanted to get out of there. 2613 01:16:07,688 --> 01:16:09,982 This was the worst 2614 01:16:07,688 --> 01:16:09,982 feeling because 2615 01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,651 I didn't wanna hold 2616 01:16:10,024 --> 01:16:12,651 onto him, you know? 2617 01:16:12,693 --> 01:16:16,906 But I was afraid that I was 2618 01:16:12,693 --> 01:16:16,906 gonna fall off of the scooter. 2619 01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,242 He dropped me off 2620 01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,242 at the intersection 2621 01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,242 where I told him 2622 01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:22,953 because I didn't 2623 01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:22,953 want him to know 2624 01:16:19,283 --> 01:16:22,953 where I lived. 2625 01:16:22,995 --> 01:16:26,582 I didn't know, really, 2626 01:16:22,995 --> 01:16:26,582 what I was supposed to do. 2627 01:16:27,833 --> 01:16:30,378 I tweeted, "Someone help me." 2628 01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,009 My friend responded, 2629 01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,009 and she was like, 2630 01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,009 "Well, tell me what happened." 2631 01:16:37,051 --> 01:16:39,845 And we decided that 2632 01:16:37,051 --> 01:16:39,845 we need to call the police. 2633 01:16:47,019 --> 01:16:49,063 The Florida State 2634 01:16:47,019 --> 01:16:49,063 University police 2635 01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,316 took me in 2636 01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,316 the back of a police car 2637 01:16:49,105 --> 01:16:52,316 to the hospital. 2638 01:16:53,150 --> 01:16:57,113 I got all of the blood work, 2639 01:16:57,154 --> 01:16:58,573 and the rape kit, 2640 01:16:57,154 --> 01:16:58,573 and everything. 2641 01:16:58,614 --> 01:17:00,533 They were 2642 01:16:58,614 --> 01:17:00,533 watching bruises appear 2643 01:17:00,575 --> 01:17:02,659 as I was laying in 2644 01:17:00,575 --> 01:17:02,659 the hospital bed. 2645 01:17:02,701 --> 01:17:05,496 We got a call about 2646 01:17:02,701 --> 01:17:05,496 3:00 in the morning. 2647 01:17:05,538 --> 01:17:08,165 We grabbed some stuff 2648 01:17:05,538 --> 01:17:08,165 and we jumped in the car 2649 01:17:08,207 --> 01:17:10,626 and started heading to FSU 2650 01:17:08,207 --> 01:17:10,626 as quick as we could. 2651 01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:16,132 She was laying in 2652 01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:16,132 the hospital bed, 2653 01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:16,132 and we each went to one side, 2654 01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:19,218 and we just held 2655 01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:19,218 her and all three 2656 01:17:16,173 --> 01:17:19,218 of us laid there, 2657 01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:21,178 or sat there and cried. 2658 01:17:23,473 --> 01:17:25,891 That's when 2659 01:17:23,473 --> 01:17:25,891 investigator Angulo came in. 2660 01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:29,479 And I told him 2661 01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:29,479 kind of everything. 2662 01:17:30,896 --> 01:17:33,065 I'm very pro law enforcement. 2663 01:17:33,107 --> 01:17:34,733 And Tallahassee PD was there, 2664 01:17:34,775 --> 01:17:37,111 and we assumed they were 2665 01:17:34,775 --> 01:17:37,111 taking care of things. 2666 01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:09,352 I went back 2667 01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:09,352 in the beginning of January. 2668 01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:11,604 It was my first 2669 01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:11,604 class on Tuesday, 2670 01:18:11,646 --> 01:18:14,649 and I see him 2671 01:18:11,646 --> 01:18:14,649 walk into the class. 2672 01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:17,901 And I knew. 2673 01:18:14,690 --> 01:18:17,901 I was like, "That's him." 2674 01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:19,820 They were about 2675 01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:19,820 to take attendance 2676 01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:19,820 and that's what... 2677 01:18:19,862 --> 01:18:24,116 I needed to stay calm 2678 01:18:19,862 --> 01:18:24,116 and just kind of wait it out. 2679 01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,287 He was one of 2680 01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,287 the very last names 2681 01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,287 that they called, 2682 01:18:28,329 --> 01:18:32,833 and, um, my teacher said, 2683 01:18:28,329 --> 01:18:32,833 "Jameis Winston?" 2684 01:18:28,329 --> 01:18:32,833 and he raised his hand. 2685 01:18:32,875 --> 01:18:35,127 I didn't know who he was. 2686 01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,505 The nation's number one 2687 01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,505 high school quarterback, 2688 01:18:37,547 --> 01:18:39,256 Jameis Winston, 2689 01:18:37,547 --> 01:18:39,256 won Gatorade State 2690 01:18:39,298 --> 01:18:41,509 Player of the Year 2691 01:18:39,298 --> 01:18:41,509 this past season. 2692 01:18:41,551 --> 01:18:43,802 Jameis, tell me why 2693 01:18:41,551 --> 01:18:43,802 you chose Florida State. 2694 01:18:43,844 --> 01:18:46,347 Just because we're trying to 2695 01:18:43,844 --> 01:18:46,347 build a tradition there 2696 01:18:46,389 --> 01:18:48,683 and hopefully we can get 2697 01:18:46,389 --> 01:18:48,683 a few national championships 2698 01:18:48,724 --> 01:18:50,934 and hopefully 2699 01:18:48,724 --> 01:18:50,934 a Heisman Trophy. 2700 01:18:50,976 --> 01:18:53,896 I notified 2701 01:18:50,976 --> 01:18:53,896 Investigator 2702 01:18:50,976 --> 01:18:53,896 Angulo of who it was. 2703 01:18:53,937 --> 01:18:55,731 I think at that 2704 01:18:53,937 --> 01:18:55,731 point he knew that 2705 01:18:55,772 --> 01:18:58,817 he was gonna be 2706 01:18:55,772 --> 01:18:58,817 the big football star. 2707 01:18:58,859 --> 01:19:01,320 He said, "This is 2708 01:18:58,859 --> 01:19:01,320 a huge football town. 2709 01:19:01,362 --> 01:19:03,906 "You really should 2710 01:19:01,362 --> 01:19:03,906 think long and hard about 2711 01:19:03,947 --> 01:19:06,033 "whether you want to 2712 01:19:03,947 --> 01:19:06,033 press charges or not." 2713 01:19:12,707 --> 01:19:14,542 It didn't make 2714 01:19:12,707 --> 01:19:14,542 sense to me, really. 2715 01:19:14,584 --> 01:19:18,879 I... I just thought, like, 2716 01:19:14,584 --> 01:19:18,879 "You know, that's his job. 2717 01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:21,507 "Why isn't he... 2718 01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:21,507 Why is he not gonna do it?" 2719 01:19:37,273 --> 01:19:39,858 The hype for 2720 01:19:37,273 --> 01:19:39,858 Jameis Winston is as 2721 01:19:37,273 --> 01:19:39,858 much as I've ever seen 2722 01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:41,402 for a first year 2723 01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:41,402 starting quarterback. 2724 01:19:41,444 --> 01:19:43,112 Winston, Winston! 2725 01:19:43,153 --> 01:19:45,906 Winston into the end zone! 2726 01:19:43,153 --> 01:19:45,906 Touchdown, Florida State. 2727 01:19:49,034 --> 01:19:53,497 Sports teams are the business 2728 01:19:49,034 --> 01:19:53,497 on these campuses. 2729 01:19:53,539 --> 01:19:57,752 When you build stadiums 2730 01:19:53,539 --> 01:19:57,752 that cost $200, $300 million, 2731 01:19:57,793 --> 01:19:59,044 when you build 2732 01:19:57,793 --> 01:19:59,044 athletic facilities 2733 01:19:59,086 --> 01:20:01,213 that can get up into 2734 01:19:59,086 --> 01:20:01,213 that range, as well, 2735 01:20:01,255 --> 01:20:04,174 and then you look at the 2736 01:20:01,255 --> 01:20:04,174 multi-billion-dollar 2737 01:20:01,255 --> 01:20:04,174 television contracts. 2738 01:20:04,216 --> 01:20:06,218 When you're talking 2739 01:20:04,216 --> 01:20:06,218 about that kind of money, 2740 01:20:06,260 --> 01:20:08,011 there's an enormous investment 2741 01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:13,350 in a student 2742 01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:13,350 athlete who may be 2743 01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:13,350 a quarterback on a top 20 team 2744 01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:16,270 that's pulling in hundreds 2745 01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:16,270 of millions of 2746 01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:16,270 dollars in revenue. 2747 01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:17,854 Nineteen-year-old Winston 2748 01:20:17,896 --> 01:20:19,523 is on the verge 2749 01:20:17,896 --> 01:20:19,523 of leading his team 2750 01:20:19,565 --> 01:20:21,024 to the ultimate victory. 2751 01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:24,069 Our main goal is to 2752 01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:24,069 win a national championship. 2753 01:20:24,111 --> 01:20:26,196 He's had 2754 01:20:24,111 --> 01:20:26,196 a meteoric rise to fame, 2755 01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,241 becoming 2756 01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,241 the starting quarterback 2757 01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,241 as a freshman. 2758 01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:31,994 He's a star on the team, 2759 01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:31,994 and that doesn't 2760 01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:31,994 mean he's guilty, 2761 01:20:32,035 --> 01:20:33,746 but the point is 2762 01:20:33,788 --> 01:20:38,041 you have to treat that person 2763 01:20:33,788 --> 01:20:38,041 like you would anyone 2764 01:20:33,788 --> 01:20:38,041 else in these cases, 2765 01:20:38,083 --> 01:20:40,252 and that didn't happen here. 2766 01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:43,673 Poised to play in and possibly 2767 01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:43,673 win the national championship, 2768 01:20:43,714 --> 01:20:46,008 a frontrunner for 2769 01:20:43,714 --> 01:20:46,008 the Heisman Trophy award, 2770 01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:47,926 Florida State quarterback, 2771 01:20:46,049 --> 01:20:47,926 Jameis Winston, 2772 01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:51,180 now possibly finds himself 2773 01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:51,180 in some hot water. 2774 01:20:51,221 --> 01:20:53,557 Winston is part of 2775 01:20:51,221 --> 01:20:53,557 an ongoing investigation 2776 01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,186 into a sexual 2777 01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,186 assault complaint 2778 01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:57,186 filed nearly a year ago, 2779 01:20:57,227 --> 01:21:00,731 but today was turned over 2780 01:20:57,227 --> 01:21:00,731 to the State Attorney. 2781 01:21:00,773 --> 01:21:02,608 As soon as I saw 2782 01:21:00,773 --> 01:21:02,608 this story break, 2783 01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:07,655 I thought how terribly, 2784 01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:07,655 terribly unfair it 2785 01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:07,655 is to this young man. 2786 01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:10,825 I think it's very, 2787 01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:10,825 very unfortunate 2788 01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:10,825 that this young dude 2789 01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:12,868 with this Magic 2790 01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:12,868 Johnson caliber smile... 2791 01:21:12,909 --> 01:21:13,994 Yup. 2792 01:21:14,036 --> 01:21:15,621 ...and a level of production, 2793 01:21:15,663 --> 01:21:16,913 and the things 2794 01:21:15,663 --> 01:21:16,913 that he has done 2795 01:21:16,955 --> 01:21:19,583 en route to pursuing 2796 01:21:16,955 --> 01:21:19,583 a national championship, 2797 01:21:19,625 --> 01:21:22,878 and the Heisman Trophy, 2798 01:21:19,625 --> 01:21:22,878 and now it comes out? 2799 01:21:24,087 --> 01:21:25,381 It just stinks to me. 2800 01:21:31,303 --> 01:21:35,932 DNA analysis confirmed 2801 01:21:31,303 --> 01:21:35,932 the DNA provided by Winston 2802 01:21:35,974 --> 01:21:38,602 matched that sample 2803 01:21:35,974 --> 01:21:38,602 taken from the accuser. 2804 01:21:41,271 --> 01:21:43,774 Although, 2805 01:21:41,271 --> 01:21:43,774 he has never spoken directly 2806 01:21:41,271 --> 01:21:43,774 to cops or prosecutors, 2807 01:21:43,816 --> 01:21:47,027 Jameis Winston, 2808 01:21:43,816 --> 01:21:47,027 through his attorneys, 2809 01:21:43,816 --> 01:21:47,027 maintains his innocence 2810 01:21:47,069 --> 01:21:50,947 and says any sex 2811 01:21:47,069 --> 01:21:50,947 was consensual. 2812 01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:53,492 Jameis Winston! 2813 01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:53,492 He's into the promised land! 2814 01:21:53,534 --> 01:21:55,369 Touchdown, FSU! 2815 01:21:55,411 --> 01:21:59,874 His voice, his way, his team. 2816 01:21:59,915 --> 01:22:02,835 Our football team 2817 01:21:59,915 --> 01:22:02,835 kept winning games. 2818 01:22:02,877 --> 01:22:05,254 We were gonna play 2819 01:22:02,877 --> 01:22:05,254 in the national championship. 2820 01:22:06,797 --> 01:22:09,592 All these people 2821 01:22:06,797 --> 01:22:09,592 were praising him. 2822 01:22:09,633 --> 01:22:14,555 People were just 2823 01:22:09,633 --> 01:22:14,555 calling me names, 2824 01:22:09,633 --> 01:22:14,555 a slut, a whore. 2825 01:22:14,597 --> 01:22:18,893 I got a tweet 2826 01:22:14,597 --> 01:22:18,893 from a girl who I didn't know. 2827 01:22:18,934 --> 01:22:20,436 The tweet was like, 2828 01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:24,481 "Why would you blame 2829 01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:24,481 such a good guy 2830 01:22:20,477 --> 01:22:24,481 for doing this?" 2831 01:22:24,523 --> 01:22:29,069 People were 2832 01:22:24,523 --> 01:22:29,069 threatening me, my family. 2833 01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:32,615 And there was other people 2834 01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:32,615 that were 2835 01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:32,615 threatening my sorority, 2836 01:22:32,656 --> 01:22:34,909 saying, "We're gonna burn down 2837 01:22:32,656 --> 01:22:34,909 their house." 2838 01:22:36,744 --> 01:22:39,622 Jameis Winston will not be 2839 01:22:36,744 --> 01:22:39,622 charged with the rape 2840 01:22:39,663 --> 01:22:42,416 that allegedly happened 2841 01:22:39,663 --> 01:22:42,416 exactly a year ago. 2842 01:22:42,458 --> 01:22:46,545 Here's prosecutor 2843 01:22:42,458 --> 01:22:46,545 and FSU alumni Willie Meggs. 2844 01:22:46,587 --> 01:22:49,632 We've carefully examined 2845 01:22:46,587 --> 01:22:49,632 all the evidence in this case 2846 01:22:49,673 --> 01:22:52,968 and have 2847 01:22:49,673 --> 01:22:52,968 concluded that no charges 2848 01:22:53,009 --> 01:22:56,972 will be filed against 2849 01:22:53,009 --> 01:22:56,972 anyone in this case. 2850 01:22:57,013 --> 01:22:59,266 Do you think 2851 01:22:57,013 --> 01:22:59,266 Jameis Winston 2852 01:22:57,013 --> 01:22:59,266 raped that girl? 2853 01:22:59,308 --> 01:23:00,309 Uh... 2854 01:23:02,018 --> 01:23:04,438 I think I did not 2855 01:23:02,018 --> 01:23:04,438 have sufficient evidence 2856 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,067 to prove that he 2857 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,067 sexually assaulted her 2858 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:09,067 against her will. 2859 01:23:12,028 --> 01:23:16,784 I think things 2860 01:23:12,028 --> 01:23:16,784 that happened there 2861 01:23:12,028 --> 01:23:16,784 that night were not good. 2862 01:23:18,243 --> 01:23:20,329 As FSU fights 2863 01:23:18,243 --> 01:23:20,329 for the national title, 2864 01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:22,289 the alleged victim 2865 01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:22,289 drops out of school. 2866 01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:25,918 FSU football 2867 01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:25,918 fans all predictably 2868 01:23:22,331 --> 01:23:25,918 delighted by this result. 2869 01:23:28,170 --> 01:23:30,297 Florida State! Whoo! 2870 01:23:32,633 --> 01:23:33,968 Jameis Winston. 2871 01:23:34,009 --> 01:23:35,135 He's amazing! 2872 01:23:34,009 --> 01:23:35,135 What a great guy. 2873 01:23:35,177 --> 01:23:36,303 Jameis Christ. 2874 01:23:36,345 --> 01:23:38,054 That's it. 2875 01:23:38,096 --> 01:23:41,767 The justice system 2876 01:23:38,096 --> 01:23:41,767 was proved right. 2877 01:23:38,096 --> 01:23:41,767 Right? It worked. 2878 01:23:41,809 --> 01:23:46,981 Every school in 2879 01:23:41,809 --> 01:23:46,981 the country that's a big-time 2880 01:23:41,809 --> 01:23:46,981 powerhouse football team 2881 01:23:47,022 --> 01:23:48,983 has players 2882 01:23:47,022 --> 01:23:48,983 dealing with that shit. 2883 01:23:49,024 --> 01:23:51,109 Some girl got jealous 2884 01:23:51,151 --> 01:23:53,028 and wanted to be 2885 01:23:51,151 --> 01:23:53,028 a part of the scene, you know. 2886 01:23:53,654 --> 01:23:55,823 She was a liar. 2887 01:23:57,449 --> 01:23:59,869 Football star, Jameis Winston, 2888 01:23:57,449 --> 01:23:59,869 Florida state quarterback, 2889 01:23:59,910 --> 01:24:01,620 had the game of 2890 01:23:59,910 --> 01:24:01,620 his young life Monday 2891 01:24:01,662 --> 01:24:03,789 when he led the Seminoles 2892 01:24:01,662 --> 01:24:03,789 to the national championship. 2893 01:24:30,774 --> 01:24:33,777 Sexual assault cases 2894 01:24:30,774 --> 01:24:33,777 are always tough. 2895 01:24:33,819 --> 01:24:36,906 Probably the first time 2896 01:24:33,819 --> 01:24:36,906 someone is apprehended 2897 01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:40,200 is not the first 2898 01:24:36,947 --> 01:24:40,200 time that they have, uh... 2899 01:24:40,242 --> 01:24:44,079 Engaged in forceful 2900 01:24:40,242 --> 01:24:44,079 conduct on someone. 2901 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,165 I went to see my 2902 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,165 victim's advocate. 2903 01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:50,293 And in that meeting 2904 01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:50,293 we were just talking. 2905 01:24:50,335 --> 01:24:52,004 She was like, 2906 01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:55,049 "We just wanna let you know 2907 01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:55,049 there's another 2908 01:24:52,046 --> 01:24:55,049 victim from him." 2909 01:24:57,133 --> 01:24:59,135 It's my pleasure to announce 2910 01:24:59,177 --> 01:25:01,931 the 2013 Heisman 2911 01:24:59,177 --> 01:25:01,931 Memorial Trophy winner. 2912 01:25:01,972 --> 01:25:03,473 Jameis Winston, 2913 01:25:01,972 --> 01:25:03,473 Florida State University! 2914 01:25:11,774 --> 01:25:14,109 Is it hard for you to believe 2915 01:25:11,774 --> 01:25:14,109 that this has all happened? 2916 01:25:18,154 --> 01:25:20,115 I kind of just 2917 01:25:18,154 --> 01:25:20,115 wanna know, like... 2918 01:25:22,952 --> 01:25:24,954 Why me? 2919 01:25:38,801 --> 01:25:40,844 It doesn't really make sense. 2920 01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:49,728 He won the Heisman Trophy, 2921 01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:49,728 and the sad thing about that 2922 01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:52,106 is that the world 2923 01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:52,106 of college football 2924 01:25:49,770 --> 01:25:52,106 didn't hold him accountable 2925 01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:53,523 for the kind of person 2926 01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:53,523 that he is off the field. 2927 01:25:56,401 --> 01:25:59,989 The system is 2928 01:25:56,401 --> 01:25:59,989 based largely on money. 2929 01:26:00,030 --> 01:26:02,532 And it's not just revenue 2930 01:26:00,030 --> 01:26:02,532 in terms of TV revenue, 2931 01:26:02,574 --> 01:26:05,911 but it's also 2932 01:26:02,574 --> 01:26:05,911 revenue in terms of 2933 01:26:02,574 --> 01:26:05,911 alumni and trustees. 2934 01:26:07,121 --> 01:26:08,371 We need to remember 2935 01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:10,666 where the power really lies 2936 01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:10,666 on these campuses. 2937 01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:12,167 Presidents hire 2938 01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:12,167 athletic directors. 2939 01:26:13,418 --> 01:26:15,921 Athletic 2940 01:26:13,418 --> 01:26:15,921 directors hire coaches. 2941 01:26:15,963 --> 01:26:18,966 Coaches then receive salaries 2942 01:26:15,963 --> 01:26:18,966 that are higher 2943 01:26:15,963 --> 01:26:18,966 than the president. 2944 01:26:19,008 --> 01:26:20,383 Tell me your title. 2945 01:26:20,425 --> 01:26:21,551 President of 2946 01:26:20,425 --> 01:26:21,551 Florida State University. 2947 01:26:21,593 --> 01:26:23,095 Wow! 2948 01:26:23,137 --> 01:26:25,014 So, you've got to be 2949 01:26:23,137 --> 01:26:25,014 the happiest man on earth. 2950 01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:27,891 You know what? 2951 01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:27,891 I think it's hard to 2952 01:26:25,055 --> 01:26:27,891 find a happier person. 2953 01:26:27,933 --> 01:26:30,144 No doubt about it. 2954 01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:33,981 These cases are nightmares 2955 01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:33,981 for college presidents. 2956 01:26:34,023 --> 01:26:37,526 This is college presidents 2957 01:26:34,023 --> 01:26:37,526 who hold their nose 2958 01:26:34,023 --> 01:26:37,526 and cover their ears 2959 01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:40,362 because they know 2960 01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:40,362 that this is 2961 01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:40,362 part of what comes 2962 01:26:40,403 --> 01:26:41,738 with the big 2963 01:26:40,403 --> 01:26:41,738 business of college sports. 2964 01:26:43,198 --> 01:26:45,492 There is a great fear 2965 01:26:43,198 --> 01:26:45,492 among many presidents 2966 01:26:45,534 --> 01:26:49,579 of alienating important, 2967 01:26:45,534 --> 01:26:49,579 influential people. 2968 01:26:51,665 --> 01:26:53,959 What's the number 2969 01:26:51,665 --> 01:26:53,959 one responsibility 2970 01:26:51,665 --> 01:26:53,959 of a college president? 2971 01:26:55,127 --> 01:26:56,628 Fundraising. 2972 01:26:56,670 --> 01:26:59,214 $100 million to UC San Diego, 2973 01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:01,299 the second largest gift 2974 01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:01,299 in the school's history. 2975 01:27:01,341 --> 01:27:03,844 $200 million. 2976 01:27:03,886 --> 01:27:05,637 That's the gift 2977 01:27:03,886 --> 01:27:05,637 University of Michigan 2978 01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:07,764 alum Stephen Ross has 2979 01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:07,764 given to the school. 2980 01:27:07,806 --> 01:27:09,307 Harvard 2981 01:27:07,806 --> 01:27:09,307 University has received 2982 01:27:09,349 --> 01:27:11,768 the largest donation 2983 01:27:09,349 --> 01:27:11,768 in the school's history, 2984 01:27:11,810 --> 01:27:14,479 $350 million. 2985 01:27:14,521 --> 01:27:16,148 Good Lord, 2986 01:27:14,521 --> 01:27:16,148 that's a lot of money, Joe. 2987 01:27:17,691 --> 01:27:19,401 Colleges are big business. 2988 01:27:19,442 --> 01:27:22,071 They have boards 2989 01:27:19,442 --> 01:27:22,071 that are trying to 2990 01:27:19,442 --> 01:27:22,071 maintain their endowments, 2991 01:27:22,112 --> 01:27:24,198 and they don't want anything 2992 01:27:22,112 --> 01:27:24,198 that's going to touch that. 2993 01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:26,282 This is about 2994 01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:26,282 millions and billions 2995 01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:28,326 of dollars being 2996 01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:28,326 spent every year 2997 01:27:28,368 --> 01:27:30,620 to keep this 2998 01:27:28,368 --> 01:27:30,620 institution running. 2999 01:27:30,662 --> 01:27:35,042 Harvard is in the midst 3000 01:27:30,662 --> 01:27:35,042 of a $6 billion 3001 01:27:30,662 --> 01:27:35,042 capital campaign. 3002 01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,921 Donors might be 3003 01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,921 troubled if they understood 3004 01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:41,840 the magnitude 3005 01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:41,840 of sexual assault 3006 01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:41,840 on the campus. 3007 01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:45,094 I think that's 3008 01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:45,094 part of the effort to 3009 01:27:41,882 --> 01:27:45,094 silence the problem. 3010 01:27:47,596 --> 01:27:49,890 Numerous times 3011 01:27:47,596 --> 01:27:49,890 I was taken aside 3012 01:27:49,932 --> 01:27:52,392 by a senior tenured 3013 01:27:49,932 --> 01:27:52,392 female faculty person 3014 01:27:52,434 --> 01:27:54,103 and told the way to 3015 01:27:52,434 --> 01:27:54,103 make it at Harvard 3016 01:27:54,144 --> 01:27:56,021 is by being 3017 01:27:54,144 --> 01:27:56,021 a dutiful daughter. 3018 01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:58,857 "If you hear it, 3019 01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:58,857 pretend you didn't. 3020 01:27:58,899 --> 01:28:02,069 "If you see it, 3021 01:27:58,899 --> 01:28:02,069 you shut up about it. 3022 01:28:02,111 --> 01:28:03,278 "Silence." 3023 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,054 There's a reason 3024 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,054 we haven't seen 3025 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,054 more faculty involved. 3026 01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:33,142 It does harm your career 3027 01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:33,142 in ways that you 3028 01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:33,142 can't even predict. 3029 01:28:33,183 --> 01:28:35,560 Certainly if you're untenured, 3030 01:28:33,183 --> 01:28:35,560 but even if you are tenured, 3031 01:28:35,602 --> 01:28:37,271 it makes it 3032 01:28:35,602 --> 01:28:37,271 much more difficult 3033 01:28:37,312 --> 01:28:38,981 to move from one 3034 01:28:37,312 --> 01:28:38,981 institution to the next 3035 01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:41,650 if you've been branded 3036 01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:41,650 an activist or a troublemaker. 3037 01:28:41,691 --> 01:28:43,359 I've had the honor 3038 01:28:41,691 --> 01:28:43,359 to work with students 3039 01:28:43,401 --> 01:28:44,987 who've been asking 3040 01:28:43,401 --> 01:28:44,987 these kinds of questions 3041 01:28:45,028 --> 01:28:46,947 for the five years 3042 01:28:45,028 --> 01:28:46,947 that I've been here. 3043 01:28:46,989 --> 01:28:48,448 We heard that 3044 01:28:46,989 --> 01:28:48,448 things were gonna happen, 3045 01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:50,659 but then there was 3046 01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:50,659 no conversation about it. 3047 01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:53,453 And I think there's a huge gap 3048 01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:53,453 in between that 3049 01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:53,453 still needs to, 3050 01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:56,331 A, be bridged, and to be 3051 01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:56,331 discussed more publicly. 3052 01:29:15,809 --> 01:29:20,730 I feel like there's 3053 01:29:15,809 --> 01:29:20,730 this moral high ground 3054 01:29:15,809 --> 01:29:20,730 in higher education 3055 01:29:20,772 --> 01:29:22,524 that is just sitting vacant. 3056 01:29:22,565 --> 01:29:27,112 What I haven't yet seen 3057 01:29:22,565 --> 01:29:27,112 anywhere, that I'm aware of, 3058 01:29:27,154 --> 01:29:30,824 is a president who has decided 3059 01:29:30,866 --> 01:29:34,369 that whatever it takes, 3060 01:29:30,866 --> 01:29:34,369 it has to be done. 3061 01:29:35,704 --> 01:29:37,413 And that's what leadership is. 3062 01:29:37,455 --> 01:29:40,500 ...that we would 3063 01:29:37,455 --> 01:29:40,500 tolerate for one moment 3064 01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:43,795 sexual violence and 3065 01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:43,795 intimidation on our campus. 3066 01:29:43,837 --> 01:29:46,965 These assumptions 3067 01:29:43,837 --> 01:29:46,965 are patently false, 3068 01:29:47,007 --> 01:29:50,135 and such speculations 3069 01:29:47,007 --> 01:29:50,135 are very, very inappropriate. 3070 01:30:53,949 --> 01:30:56,701 At the end of the day, 3071 01:30:53,949 --> 01:30:56,701 I think we share 3072 01:30:53,949 --> 01:30:56,701 all the same goals, 3073 01:30:56,743 --> 01:30:59,204 which is to 3074 01:30:56,743 --> 01:30:59,204 create a safe place 3075 01:30:59,246 --> 01:31:01,415 where all our 3076 01:30:59,246 --> 01:31:01,415 students can thrive. 3077 01:31:14,344 --> 01:31:16,763 Of your 25 3078 01:31:14,344 --> 01:31:16,763 possible complainants, 3079 01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:18,932 how many of 3080 01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:18,932 them are survivors? 3081 01:31:19,349 --> 01:31:20,392 Twenty. 3082 01:31:21,684 --> 01:31:23,228 How many are 3083 01:31:21,684 --> 01:31:23,228 willing to go public? 3084 01:31:25,021 --> 01:31:28,108 Um, probably five. 3085 01:31:28,150 --> 01:31:29,734 So, what about just 3086 01:31:28,150 --> 01:31:29,734 a press conference? 3087 01:31:29,776 --> 01:31:31,485 Yeah. That I think 3088 01:31:29,776 --> 01:31:31,485 could be good. 3089 01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,042 Good morning, and thank you 3090 01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,042 for your attendance 3091 01:31:46,084 --> 01:31:47,543 at this important event. 3092 01:31:47,585 --> 01:31:49,879 My name is Sofie Karasek, 3093 01:31:47,585 --> 01:31:49,879 and I'm a third year student 3094 01:31:49,921 --> 01:31:51,965 here at the University of 3095 01:31:49,921 --> 01:31:51,965 California, Berkeley. 3096 01:31:52,007 --> 01:31:53,507 My name is Meghan Warner. 3097 01:31:53,549 --> 01:31:54,968 My name is Iman Stenson. 3098 01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:57,387 My name is Shannon Thomas, 3099 01:31:55,010 --> 01:31:57,387 and I'm a proud fourth-year, 3100 01:31:57,429 --> 01:31:58,805 soon to be graduate, 3101 01:31:57,429 --> 01:31:58,805 of UC Berkeley. 3102 01:31:58,847 --> 01:32:00,556 I'm a survivor of 3103 01:31:58,847 --> 01:32:00,556 a sexual assault 3104 01:32:00,598 --> 01:32:03,018 that occurred 3105 01:32:00,598 --> 01:32:03,018 less than a year ago. 3106 01:32:03,059 --> 01:32:05,687 "I didn't realize at the time 3107 01:32:03,059 --> 01:32:05,687 that the nightmare I was in 3108 01:32:05,728 --> 01:32:07,605 "was not limited to 3109 01:32:05,728 --> 01:32:07,605 the night of the assault." 3110 01:32:07,647 --> 01:32:09,316 "The process that 3111 01:32:07,647 --> 01:32:09,316 followed is far more 3112 01:32:09,358 --> 01:32:11,234 "upsetting than 3113 01:32:09,358 --> 01:32:11,234 the assault itself." 3114 01:32:11,276 --> 01:32:13,695 "When I looked at resources 3115 01:32:11,276 --> 01:32:13,695 from the university online, 3116 01:32:13,736 --> 01:32:15,364 "I saw that most were 3117 01:32:13,736 --> 01:32:15,364 for the perpetrator, 3118 01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:18,241 "including an infographic 3119 01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:18,241 for what to do 3120 01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:18,241 if you're accused, 3121 01:32:18,283 --> 01:32:20,702 "not what to do if you're 3122 01:32:18,283 --> 01:32:20,702 a survivor seeking help." 3123 01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:22,871 "She made me feel like 3124 01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:22,871 what happened to 3125 01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:22,871 me wasn't real, 3126 01:32:22,912 --> 01:32:25,165 "like it wasn't a big deal, 3127 01:32:22,912 --> 01:32:25,165 like it was my fault." 3128 01:32:25,207 --> 01:32:27,000 "My fault." 3129 01:32:25,207 --> 01:32:27,000 "My fault." 3130 01:32:27,042 --> 01:32:30,586 "Sexual assault at UC Berkeley 3131 01:32:27,042 --> 01:32:30,586 is an epidemic." 3132 01:32:30,628 --> 01:32:33,673 Several female students say 3133 01:32:30,628 --> 01:32:33,673 they were sexually assaulted 3134 01:32:33,715 --> 01:32:35,758 on the University 3135 01:32:33,715 --> 01:32:35,758 of California campus, 3136 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,469 but they weren't 3137 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,469 taken seriously. 3138 01:32:38,845 --> 01:32:40,554 We were tracking 3139 01:32:38,845 --> 01:32:40,554 the media frame 3140 01:32:40,596 --> 01:32:42,057 and how it changed, 3141 01:32:40,596 --> 01:32:42,057 and where it spiked, 3142 01:32:42,098 --> 01:32:44,142 and what articles worked, 3143 01:32:42,098 --> 01:32:44,142 and what didn't. 3144 01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:47,479 These students who spoke today 3145 01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:47,479 went from sexual 3146 01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:47,479 assault victims 3147 01:32:47,521 --> 01:32:49,689 to survivors 3148 01:32:47,521 --> 01:32:49,689 and now activists. 3149 01:32:49,731 --> 01:32:52,734 Their efforts are 3150 01:32:49,731 --> 01:32:52,734 gaining the attention... 3151 01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:55,028 We saw what was 3152 01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:55,028 effective, and that was 3153 01:32:52,775 --> 01:32:55,028 personal narrative, 3154 01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:57,322 and putting a face 3155 01:32:55,070 --> 01:32:57,322 and a name to the issues. 3156 01:32:58,614 --> 01:33:00,950 My name is Carolyn Luby. 3157 01:33:00,992 --> 01:33:02,952 My name is Alexa Schwartz. 3158 01:33:02,994 --> 01:33:06,081 My name is Ari Mostov, 3159 01:33:02,994 --> 01:33:06,081 and I would 3160 01:33:02,994 --> 01:33:06,081 like to provide you 3161 01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:09,084 with a more personal account 3162 01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:09,084 of the kind of 3163 01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:09,084 abuses that occurred here 3164 01:33:09,125 --> 01:33:11,711 at the University of 3165 01:33:09,125 --> 01:33:11,711 Southern California. 3166 01:33:11,753 --> 01:33:14,923 My name is Hope Brinn. 3167 01:33:11,753 --> 01:33:14,923 I'm a sophomore at Swarthmore. 3168 01:33:14,964 --> 01:33:16,841 I was sexually 3169 01:33:14,964 --> 01:33:16,841 assaulted and stalked 3170 01:33:16,883 --> 01:33:18,927 by fellow 3171 01:33:16,883 --> 01:33:18,927 students on this campus. 3172 01:33:18,968 --> 01:33:21,304 I was raped 3173 01:33:18,968 --> 01:33:21,304 during my freshman year 3174 01:33:18,968 --> 01:33:21,304 at Occidental. 3175 01:33:21,346 --> 01:33:23,432 I wish that I had 3176 01:33:21,346 --> 01:33:23,432 not been discouraged 3177 01:33:23,473 --> 01:33:25,599 by a dean from 3178 01:33:23,473 --> 01:33:25,599 reporting my rape. 3179 01:33:25,641 --> 01:33:27,519 I'm filing as 3180 01:33:25,641 --> 01:33:27,519 the lead complainant 3181 01:33:27,561 --> 01:33:29,104 against 3182 01:33:27,561 --> 01:33:29,104 the University of Connecticut. 3183 01:33:29,145 --> 01:33:30,604 Against UC Berkeley. 3184 01:33:30,646 --> 01:33:31,647 Against 3185 01:33:30,646 --> 01:33:31,647 the institution that I love. 3186 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:36,986 Okay, let's go! 3187 01:33:55,713 --> 01:33:58,883 Seeing students over the last 3188 01:33:55,713 --> 01:33:58,883 year to two years 3189 01:33:58,925 --> 01:34:01,803 almost taking control of this, 3190 01:34:01,844 --> 01:34:03,846 for me it's been 3191 01:34:01,844 --> 01:34:03,846 a miraculous thing to witness. 3192 01:34:05,639 --> 01:34:08,059 For my senior thesis, 3193 01:34:05,639 --> 01:34:08,059 I will be carrying 3194 01:34:05,639 --> 01:34:08,059 the mattress with me 3195 01:34:08,101 --> 01:34:11,396 as long as he is 3196 01:34:08,101 --> 01:34:11,396 still on this campus. 3197 01:34:11,438 --> 01:34:13,565 Our individual stories 3198 01:34:11,438 --> 01:34:13,565 are what makes this a story. 3199 01:34:14,816 --> 01:34:18,403 Here is the experience 3200 01:34:14,816 --> 01:34:18,403 of 700 survivors. 3201 01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,156 And unless 3202 01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,156 something happens, 3203 01:34:18,445 --> 01:34:21,156 it's not going to change. 3204 01:34:22,616 --> 01:34:24,326 There is 3205 01:34:22,616 --> 01:34:24,326 a revolution happening 3206 01:34:24,367 --> 01:34:26,660 on campuses 3207 01:34:24,367 --> 01:34:26,660 across the country, 3208 01:34:26,702 --> 01:34:30,081 and I'm very hopeful 3209 01:34:26,702 --> 01:34:30,081 that this really is our 3210 01:34:26,702 --> 01:34:30,081 watershed moment. 3211 01:34:34,794 --> 01:34:36,338 We are fed up! 3212 01:34:37,506 --> 01:34:39,007 With your university! 3213 01:34:39,048 --> 01:34:40,925 Dartmouth has a problem! 3214 01:34:40,967 --> 01:34:41,968 Dartmouth has a problem! 3215 01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:43,470 ...assault and harassment, 3216 01:34:43,512 --> 01:34:45,472 and today we decide 3217 01:34:43,512 --> 01:34:45,472 that we will no 3218 01:34:43,512 --> 01:34:45,472 longer tolerate it. 3219 01:34:45,514 --> 01:34:46,473 What do we want? 3220 01:34:45,514 --> 01:34:46,473 A safe campus! 3221 01:34:47,807 --> 01:34:49,184 When do we want it? 3222 01:34:47,807 --> 01:34:49,184 Now! 3223 01:34:49,225 --> 01:34:52,686 We're watching! 3224 01:34:49,225 --> 01:34:52,686 We're here! 3225 01:34:49,225 --> 01:34:52,686 We've made ourselves clear! 3226 01:34:54,314 --> 01:34:56,732 It was happening so quickly. 3227 01:34:56,774 --> 01:34:59,444 I mean, within a year 3228 01:34:56,774 --> 01:34:59,444 of our complaint against UNC, 3229 01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:02,905 the issue had 3230 01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:02,905 shot to the top of 3231 01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:02,905 the national agenda. 3232 01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:04,658 Thank you so much 3233 01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:04,658 for coming to my office. 3234 01:35:04,698 --> 01:35:06,201 What else do you 3235 01:35:04,698 --> 01:35:06,201 think we need to do? 3236 01:35:06,242 --> 01:35:07,619 Do you wanna 3237 01:35:06,242 --> 01:35:07,619 run through 3238 01:35:06,242 --> 01:35:07,619 some of those items 3239 01:35:07,661 --> 01:35:09,329 on the list 3240 01:35:07,661 --> 01:35:09,329 that we marked off? 3241 01:35:09,371 --> 01:35:11,540 Yeah. Sure, sure, sure. 3242 01:35:09,371 --> 01:35:11,540 Yeah, I have my list. 3243 01:35:11,581 --> 01:35:13,208 The week 3244 01:35:11,581 --> 01:35:13,208 before my senior finals, 3245 01:35:13,249 --> 01:35:15,293 I was in DC, 3246 01:35:13,249 --> 01:35:15,293 talking to senators. 3247 01:35:15,335 --> 01:35:18,463 We have seen 3248 01:35:15,335 --> 01:35:18,463 an inspiring wave 3249 01:35:15,335 --> 01:35:18,463 of student-led activism 3250 01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:20,674 and a growing 3251 01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:20,674 number of students 3252 01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:20,674 who found the courage 3253 01:35:20,714 --> 01:35:22,800 to come forward 3254 01:35:20,714 --> 01:35:22,800 and report attacks. 3255 01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:24,802 We owe all these 3256 01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:24,802 brave young people 3257 01:35:24,844 --> 01:35:26,012 an extraordinary 3258 01:35:24,844 --> 01:35:26,012 debt of gratitude, 3259 01:35:26,929 --> 01:35:29,057 but we cannot stop there. 3260 01:35:29,098 --> 01:35:32,602 I still hear 3261 01:35:29,098 --> 01:35:32,602 stories from survivors 3262 01:35:29,098 --> 01:35:32,602 whose experiences reporting 3263 01:35:32,644 --> 01:35:35,647 to the school sound 3264 01:35:32,644 --> 01:35:35,647 exactly like mine. 3265 01:35:35,689 --> 01:35:37,065 Activists all 3266 01:35:35,689 --> 01:35:37,065 around the country 3267 01:35:37,106 --> 01:35:38,525 were speaking 3268 01:35:37,106 --> 01:35:38,525 out on this issue. 3269 01:35:38,567 --> 01:35:40,068 "Stand up for justice. 3270 01:35:40,109 --> 01:35:41,777 "Don't let other students go 3271 01:35:40,109 --> 01:35:41,777 what I went through." 3272 01:35:43,238 --> 01:35:45,198 It used to be that 3273 01:35:43,238 --> 01:35:45,198 the department of education 3274 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,201 didn't release 3275 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,201 names of who was 3276 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,201 under investigation, 3277 01:35:48,243 --> 01:35:49,869 but after 3278 01:35:48,243 --> 01:35:49,869 pressure from a lot of 3279 01:35:48,243 --> 01:35:49,869 student activists, 3280 01:35:49,911 --> 01:35:51,787 they've begun to do that. 3281 01:35:51,829 --> 01:35:54,207 Fifty-five 3282 01:35:51,829 --> 01:35:54,207 colleges and universities 3283 01:35:54,249 --> 01:35:57,711 facing a Title IX 3284 01:35:54,249 --> 01:35:57,711 sexual abuse investigation. 3285 01:35:57,751 --> 01:35:59,337 Sixty universities 3286 01:35:57,751 --> 01:35:59,337 have been put on notice 3287 01:35:59,379 --> 01:36:01,423 by the Department 3288 01:35:59,379 --> 01:36:01,423 of Education. 3289 01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:03,799 More than 3290 01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:03,799 70 schools nationwide 3291 01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:03,799 are now under investigation. 3292 01:36:26,197 --> 01:36:30,326 We have over 70 3293 01:36:26,197 --> 01:36:30,326 that are currently 3294 01:36:26,197 --> 01:36:30,326 being investigated. 3295 01:36:30,368 --> 01:36:32,621 When they released 3296 01:36:30,368 --> 01:36:32,621 that list of schools, 3297 01:36:32,662 --> 01:36:34,788 that map of where 3298 01:36:32,662 --> 01:36:34,788 they pinpointed it 3299 01:36:35,957 --> 01:36:36,832 matched our map. 3300 01:37:03,817 --> 01:37:05,403 I wanna do a close-up. 3301 01:37:08,072 --> 01:37:09,449 Okay. 3302 01:37:20,502 --> 01:37:24,547 Welcome to the 2014 3303 01:37:20,502 --> 01:37:24,547 spring commencement 3304 01:37:24,589 --> 01:37:27,634 at the University 3305 01:37:24,589 --> 01:37:27,634 of North Carolina 3306 01:37:24,589 --> 01:37:27,634 at Chapel Hill. 3307 01:37:38,186 --> 01:37:40,689 Here at Notre Dame, 3308 01:37:38,186 --> 01:37:40,689 we wanna be 3309 01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:42,607 not just another 3310 01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:42,607 Harvard or Oxford, 3311 01:37:42,649 --> 01:37:45,276 but a Bethlehem, 3312 01:37:42,649 --> 01:37:45,276 a Nazareth, a Calvary, 3313 01:37:45,318 --> 01:37:47,861 a Cana, the upper room 3314 01:37:45,318 --> 01:37:47,861 at Pentecost. 3315 01:37:50,281 --> 01:37:52,784 You know, 3316 01:37:50,281 --> 01:37:52,784 I'm still practicing my faith. 3317 01:37:53,993 --> 01:37:55,869 But something I 3318 01:37:53,993 --> 01:37:55,869 believed in so long 3319 01:37:55,911 --> 01:37:58,456 and had so much 3320 01:37:55,911 --> 01:37:58,456 trust in just failed. 3321 01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,960 I have to remind myself that 3322 01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,960 people sin and 3323 01:37:58,498 --> 01:38:02,960 people aren't good. 3324 01:38:03,002 --> 01:38:05,921 And so, I just have 3325 01:38:03,002 --> 01:38:05,921 to remind myself that. 3326 01:38:14,305 --> 01:38:17,266 What do 3327 01:38:14,305 --> 01:38:17,266 universities owe the future? 3328 01:38:18,685 --> 01:38:22,355 We owe the future meaning. 3329 01:38:22,397 --> 01:38:25,483 Universities must nurture 3330 01:38:22,397 --> 01:38:25,483 the ability to interpret, 3331 01:38:25,525 --> 01:38:27,527 to make critical judgments, 3332 01:38:27,569 --> 01:38:30,279 to dare to ask 3333 01:38:27,569 --> 01:38:30,279 the biggest questions. 3334 01:38:30,321 --> 01:38:32,574 What is good? What is just? 3335 01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:38,079 You know, I'll see someone 3336 01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:38,079 who looks like 3337 01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:38,079 him on the street, 3338 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,665 and I don't want to say that 3339 01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,665 I'm afraid of him, 3340 01:38:40,707 --> 01:38:45,002 but, um, yeah, it's shocking. 3341 01:38:45,044 --> 01:38:47,547 It was three years ago, 3342 01:38:47,589 --> 01:38:50,550 and it's still right up here. 3343 01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:09,736 Your reputation 3344 01:39:06,858 --> 01:39:09,736 is what you have 3345 01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:12,739 when you come 3346 01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:12,739 into Florida state. 3347 01:39:12,781 --> 01:39:15,241 Your character 3348 01:39:12,781 --> 01:39:15,241 is what you have 3349 01:39:12,781 --> 01:39:15,241 when you leave Florida State. 3350 01:39:19,704 --> 01:39:22,707 I know that was 3351 01:39:19,704 --> 01:39:22,707 the right thing to do, 3352 01:39:19,704 --> 01:39:22,707 to come forward. 3353 01:39:22,749 --> 01:39:26,335 But Investigator 3354 01:39:22,749 --> 01:39:26,335 Angulo was right 3355 01:39:22,749 --> 01:39:26,335 whenever he said 3356 01:39:26,377 --> 01:39:29,963 that I would be 3357 01:39:26,377 --> 01:39:29,963 driven out of Tallahassee. 3358 01:39:48,190 --> 01:39:50,192 Andrea Lynn Pino. 3359 01:40:12,256 --> 01:40:15,677 Yeah, my name's Mike, 3360 01:40:12,256 --> 01:40:15,677 and my daughter was raped 3361 01:40:15,718 --> 01:40:17,052 at the University 3362 01:40:15,718 --> 01:40:17,052 of California 3363 01:40:17,094 --> 01:40:18,847 Santa Barbara 3364 01:40:17,094 --> 01:40:18,847 a week and a half ago. 3365 01:40:20,932 --> 01:40:25,478 After they were done with her, 3366 01:40:20,932 --> 01:40:25,478 they just dumped her. 3367 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,314 When she got back 3368 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,314 from the hospital, 3369 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,314 she called the school 3370 01:40:28,356 --> 01:40:30,900 and told them that 3371 01:40:28,356 --> 01:40:30,900 she wanted to go forward. 3372 01:40:32,318 --> 01:40:36,865 From there it has 3373 01:40:32,318 --> 01:40:36,865 been an absolute joke. 3374 01:40:36,906 --> 01:40:39,951 Nobody up there 3375 01:40:36,906 --> 01:40:39,951 wants to help us.